Hi Maggie, Sorry I'm coming into this discussion bit late but we don't print that many catalogues anymore for our exhibitions - they just didn't end up being a cost effective way of enhancing the collections shown in our long or short term exhibitions. We concentrate on having a strong online presence, as we tend to tour a lot of our special exhibitions and so people in remote areas need to be able to quickly plug into our website and find out what else we have http://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/ . We treat exhibitions as just another way to see and learn more about our collections and so the publication of catalogues has really fallen by the wayside, as we have found that people prefer to find out about us online. This may not quell the fears that some of your curators may have :) but I suppose each museum has to work out what best works for them. Emma
-----Original Message----- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of mcn-l-requ...@mcn.edu Sent: Saturday, 30 April 2011 5:00 AM To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: mcn-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 24 Send mcn-l mailing list submissions to mcn-l at mcn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mcn-l-request at mcn.edu You can reach the person managing the list at mcn-l-owner at mcn.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of mcn-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. DAMs (Beth Heller) 2. SLA and copyright (Lesley Ellen Harris) 3. Re: DAMs (John Bedard) 4. Re: DAMs (McGovern, Megan H) 5. Re: Online Collections Publication (Deborah Wythe) 6. Re: DAMs (Deborah Wythe) 7. scholarly publishing specs (Deborah Wythe) 8. Re: scholarly publishing specs (Newman, Alan) 9. Re: Online Collections Publication (Perian Sully) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:09:07 -0600 From: Beth Heller <bhel...@americanalpineclub.org> Subject: [MCN-L] DAMs To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Message-ID: <BANLkTi=qAh_DvUcYwv9HFkFgtwWQKokURw at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just wanted to thank everyone who posted which DAMs they were using and why. I think we are going to explore a bit further with Fedora/Islandora/Solr, but David Dwiggins spent a great deal of time on the phone with me showing me ResourceSpace and it was really impressive. The main thing I've learned is that there is no out-of-the-box one-thing-does-it-all solution, so we will have to sort through which layers will work best together. Anyone who has advice navigating this part of the project will be welcome! Specific costs and vendors/developers and pros and cons of various APIs please! And much gratitude goes to Leala for her time and suggested resources as well! Beth _ _ Beth Heller Library Director The American Alpine Club (303) 384-0110 ext. 21 <lbauer at americanalpineclub.org> bheller at americanalpineclub.org http://americanalpineclub.org http://booksearch.americanalpineclub.org http://www.facebook.com/americanalpineclublibrary<http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Alpine-Club-Library/123324141044052> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:44:43 -0400 From: Lesley Ellen Harris <lesleyehar...@comcast.net> Subject: [MCN-L] SLA and copyright To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu> Message-ID: <D188C279-89F0-4ABE-B932-7BE8ED03B8FC at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" SLA has a number of copyright opportunities coming up: Get a free private one-on-one consultation on copyright/licensing at Ask the Copyright Expert on June 13 at SLA conference in Philadelphia. Also in Philadelphia, June 11, full day course on Managing Copyright, and June 12, full day course on Spreading the Copyright Message. No need to wait until June to get your copyright needs met. On Tuesday May 3, Click University online course CCM 300 on Copyright Issues in a Global Information Society begins. This online course covers principles in international copyright law. The aim of the course is to introduce librarians and others to otherwise complex international principles and apply and demystify these principles into everyday situations. From the librarian's perspective, international copyright law plays a role in their work in the following situations: posting content on a Web site or Intranet that will be accessed outside of the U.S. (or outside of one's own country) using content from outside the U.S. (or outside of one's own country) negotiating a digital license with a vendor/publisher/content owner who is based outside one's own country applying fair use to non-U.S. materials distributing content beyond the U.S. borders Note that this course is relevant to those who live and work around the world. Discussions, examples and case scenarios in the course will be customized towards those who register in the course and the countries in which they are based. Lesley Lesley Ellen Harris lesley at copyrightlaws.com Certificate in Copyright Management www.clickuniversity.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 07:45:03 -0500 From: John Bedard <jbed...@artsmia.org> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DAMs To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu> Message-ID: <BANLkTim7RhSe1XNdRcu6qHc5w3uzTDL=Qg at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Beth, The best advice I can offer for a selection process of any system once you narrow the field is to prepare a test script. Give the vendor a specific script to follow, with data you provide. This helps you understand exactly much better what a system will and will not do in your environment. Much more helpful than a canned vendor presentation. Learned this from Steve Jacobson of JCA and found it to be an extremely valuable tool in any software selections process. John On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 14:09, Beth Heller <bheller at americanalpineclub.org>wrote: > I just wanted to thank everyone who posted which DAMs they were using and > why. I think we are going to explore a bit further with > Fedora/Islandora/Solr, but David Dwiggins spent a great deal of time on the > phone with me showing me ResourceSpace and it was really impressive. The > main thing I've learned is that there is no out-of-the-box > one-thing-does-it-all solution, so we will have to sort through which > layers > will work best together. Anyone who has advice navigating this part of the > project will be welcome! Specific costs and vendors/developers and pros > and > cons of various APIs please! And much gratitude goes to Leala for her time > and suggested resources as well! > Beth > > > _ > _ > > Beth Heller > Library Director > The American Alpine Club > (303) 384-0110 ext. 21 <lbauer at americanalpineclub.org> > bheller at americanalpineclub.org > > http://americanalpineclub.org > http://booksearch.americanalpineclub.org > http://www.facebook.com/americanalpineclublibrary< > http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Alpine-Club-Library/123324141044052 > > > > _______________________________________________ > You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer > Network (http://www.mcn.edu) > > To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu > > To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l > > The MCN-L archives can be found at: > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ > -- John R. Bedard | Director of Information Systems Minneapolis Institute of Arts 2400 Third Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55404 612-870-3268 | JBedard at artsmia.org | www.artsmia.org ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:15:49 -0400 From: "McGovern, Megan H" <mcgover...@cmog.org> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DAMs To: 'Museum Computer Network Listserv' <mcn-l at mcn.edu> Message-ID: <A7B6F6BE538A63458F8F3F8012F0D9CB05CB15903D at roman.cmog.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Beth, I agree wholeheartedly with John. We also used a test demonstration script with test assets. It was a wonderful evaluation tool. Megan Megan McGovern Digital Asset Specialist Corning Museum of Glass 607.438.5329?office (new) 607.684.5890 cell mcgovernmh at cmog.org -----Original Message----- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of John Bedard Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:45 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DAMs Beth, The best advice I can offer for a selection process of any system once you narrow the field is to prepare a test script. Give the vendor a specific script to follow, with data you provide. This helps you understand exactly much better what a system will and will not do in your environment. Much more helpful than a canned vendor presentation. Learned this from Steve Jacobson of JCA and found it to be an extremely valuable tool in any software selections process. John On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 14:09, Beth Heller <bheller at americanalpineclub.org>wrote: > I just wanted to thank everyone who posted which DAMs they were using > and why. I think we are going to explore a bit further with > Fedora/Islandora/Solr, but David Dwiggins spent a great deal of time > on the phone with me showing me ResourceSpace and it was really > impressive. The main thing I've learned is that there is no > out-of-the-box one-thing-does-it-all solution, so we will have to sort > through which layers will work best together. Anyone who has advice > navigating this part of the project will be welcome! Specific costs > and vendors/developers and pros and cons of various APIs please! And > much gratitude goes to Leala for her time and suggested resources as > well! > Beth > > > _ > _ > > Beth Heller > Library Director > The American Alpine Club > (303) 384-0110 ext. 21 <lbauer at americanalpineclub.org> > bheller at americanalpineclub.org > > http://americanalpineclub.org > http://booksearch.americanalpineclub.org > http://www.facebook.com/americanalpineclublibrary< > http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Alpine-Club-Library/12332414104 > 4052 > > > > _______________________________________________ > You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum > Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) > > To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu > > To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l > > The MCN-L archives can be found at: > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ > -- John R. Bedard | Director of Information Systems Minneapolis Institute of Arts 2400 Third Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55404 612-870-3268 | JBedard at artsmia.org | www.artsmia.org ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:23:04 -0400 From: Deborah Wythe <deborahwy...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Online Collections Publication To: <mcn-l at mcn.edu> Message-ID: <SNT103-W471D8C4E0F7062F1D70ECCCF9A0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hi Maggie, We've have had an uptick in image requests since putting the full collection on line -- makes sense, of course: people looking for images are going to want to see images. Having PayPal available for quick purchases and people who want an image to print and hang on their wall has also helped. I don't think there's any competition between catalogs and online collections: the first is about interpretation, pulling together related groups, and (yes) providing beautiful images. The second is about searching, images, and data, and (in our case) interaction, tagging, commenting. I don't have stats on hand, but you could look over our blog posts about the collections online and see if there are any comments that ring true to you. This one is a good starting point http://bit.ly/jPSKXk (I can't believe it's only a year ago that we released everything!) Try the Labs pages, too: http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/labs/ I'm also not sure that collection online is about attendance -- at least not in a bricks and mortar sense. We all need to start seeing our audience as something broader than the people who walk in the door. People who don't actually come to the museum don't pay admission, but when we build worldwide audience and community, we're banking for the future. If people have a good experience with your collection online and the rest of your website and feel connected with you on a personal level, that may prime them to visit the next time they're in the area, or to talk you up and spread the word ("The Brooklyn Museum is a way cool place."). Deb Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com From: maggie.han...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:24:06 -0700 To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: [MCN-L] Online Collections Publication (*I apologize if anyone has already received this message. I'm having trouble with my subscription so I'm trying from a different email address!*) Hi, all! We are in the nascent stages of publishing museum objects online. I?ve recently had a few staff members ask questions and raise concerns about online publication hurting exhibition catalog sales (and that general idea). This is an old concern that I know has been disputed and calmed over the past decade or so, but it?s a new concept/process for some of our staff. I?d like to share some examples or refer concerned parties to statistics that show that online publication of collections has been shown to *increase * attendance and sales. I know that there are good quotes in the *LA Art Online* report; can anyone point me toward other reports, stats, or personal anecdotes that I could share? Thanks so much! Maggie ______________________________________ *Maggie Hanson* Collections Information Manager | Portland Art Museum *T* | +1 503.276.4224 *F* | +1 503.226.4201 *twitter* | @pamcollections <http://twitter.com/pamcollections> _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:26:05 -0400 From: Deborah Wythe <deborahwy...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DAMs To: <mcn-l at mcn.edu> Message-ID: <SNT103-W57537C95BDCFF7A00CF8F8CF9A0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I would also urge you to build a test period into your contract where you have time to implement and be sure that everything works as it is supposed to. Tie your final payment to that approval process. Deborah Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com > From: mcgovernmh at cmog.org > To: mcn-l at mcn.edu > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:15:49 -0400 > Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DAMs > > Beth, > > I agree wholeheartedly with John. We also used a test demonstration script > with test assets. It was a wonderful evaluation tool. > > Megan > > > Megan McGovern > Digital Asset Specialist > Corning Museum of Glass > 607.438.5329 office (new) > 607.684.5890 cell > mcgovernmh at cmog.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of > John Bedard > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:45 AM > To: Museum Computer Network Listserv > Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DAMs > > Beth, > > The best advice I can offer for a selection process of any system once you > narrow the field is to prepare a test script. Give the vendor a specific > script to follow, with data you provide. This helps you understand exactly > much better what a system will and will not do in your environment. Much more > helpful than a canned vendor presentation. > > Learned this from Steve Jacobson of JCA and found it to be an extremely > valuable tool in any software selections process. > > John > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 14:09, Beth Heller > <bheller at americanalpineclub.org>wrote: > > > I just wanted to thank everyone who posted which DAMs they were using > > and why. I think we are going to explore a bit further with > > Fedora/Islandora/Solr, but David Dwiggins spent a great deal of time > > on the phone with me showing me ResourceSpace and it was really > > impressive. The main thing I've learned is that there is no > > out-of-the-box one-thing-does-it-all solution, so we will have to sort > > through which layers will work best together. Anyone who has advice > > navigating this part of the project will be welcome! Specific costs > > and vendors/developers and pros and cons of various APIs please! And > > much gratitude goes to Leala for her time and suggested resources as > > well! > > Beth > > > > > > _ > > _ > > > > Beth Heller > > Library Director > > The American Alpine Club > > (303) 384-0110 ext. 21 <lbauer at americanalpineclub.org> > > bheller at americanalpineclub.org > > > > http://americanalpineclub.org > > http://booksearch.americanalpineclub.org > > http://www.facebook.com/americanalpineclublibrary< > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Alpine-Club-Library/12332414104 > > 4052 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum > > Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) > > > > To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu > > > > To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: > > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l > > > > The MCN-L archives can be found at: > > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ > > > > > > -- > John R. Bedard | Director of Information Systems Minneapolis Institute of > Arts 2400 Third Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55404 > > 612-870-3268 | JBedard at artsmia.org | www.artsmia.org > _______________________________________________ > You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer > Network (http://www.mcn.edu) > > To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu > > To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l > > The MCN-L archives can be found at: > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:43:03 -0400 From: Deborah Wythe <deborahwy...@hotmail.com> Subject: [MCN-L] scholarly publishing specs To: <mcn-l at mcn.edu> Message-ID: <SNT103-W593B56745BC373BFB74193CF9A0 at phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Apropos of our recent thread on how and on what terms people are providing images to scholars and conversations we're having here about possibly increasing the size of images we provide on our website, I wanted to open a discussion of what they really need. We're always asked for full-size, high-resolution TIFF files. Our press office, however, regularly provides large JPEGs to magazines and newspapers -- they rarely require TIFFs. So the question is: for a half-page reproduction in a scholarly journal (not a glossy catalog or special use), what would be adequate? (Are they really using all of those bits and bytes we send them in a 60 Mb file? It doesn't always look like it.) If anyone has contacts in the publishing field, I'd be very interested in their comments. If we could come up with a collective standard, it would make it easier all around -- we'd know what to post and make available, researchers would know what was expected by publishers. Please feel free to re-post to other, related lists. Deb Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:24:52 -0400 From: "Newman, Alan" <a-new...@nga.gov> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] scholarly publishing specs To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu> Message-ID: <D54C7866-7209-438B-A42A-1287679C7FC1 at nga.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Deb This was a thread a while ago on ImageMuse. There is virtually no perceptible difference in print output between an 8 bit per pixel TIFF and high-quality (10+ in Photoshop) JPEG. The distinction comes if before output your files are reprocessed and saved again as JPEG. So it takes very careful communication about file handling with others upstream if you want to adopt JPEG delivery for publication. Cheers, Alan Newman National Gallery of Art ---sent from mobile device--- On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:12 AM, "Deborah Wythe" <deborahwythe at hotmail.com> wrote: > > Apropos of our recent thread on how and on what terms people are providing > images to scholars and conversations we're having here about possibly > increasing the size of images we provide on our website, I wanted to open a > discussion of what they really need. > > We're always asked for full-size, high-resolution TIFF files. Our press > office, however, regularly provides large JPEGs to magazines and newspapers > -- they rarely require TIFFs. > > So the question is: for a half-page reproduction in a scholarly journal (not > a glossy catalog or special use), what would be adequate? (Are they really > using all of those bits and bytes we send them in a 60 Mb file? It doesn't > always look like it.) > > If anyone has contacts in the publishing field, I'd be very interested in > their comments. If we could come up with a collective standard, it would make > it easier all around -- we'd know what to post and make available, > researchers would know what was expected by publishers. > > Please feel free to re-post to other, related lists. > > Deb Wythe > Brooklyn Museum > > > deborahwythe at hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer > Network (http://www.mcn.edu) > > To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu > > To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l > > The MCN-L archives can be found at: > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:08:43 -0700 From: Perian Sully <per...@emphatic.org> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Online Collections Publication To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu> Message-ID: <BANLkTikHBLexvDBrWo+SBZC7Rmhytwv0zA at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I wholeheartedly agree with Deb. To date, the evidence is inconclusive that online collections=increased foot traffic EXCEPT when one takes into account the fact that easy access to museum collection materials increases the feelgood quotient for a percentage of your audience. Anecdotally, I do hear on a regular basis from the institutions I work with that they are seeing an uptick in researcher visits. Their researchers are coming from out of town to see the materials firsthand. This doesn't add substantially to the amount of visitors an institution gets, but it does reflect well on the museum to have those visitors making a special trip. You might also take a look at Dr. Paul Marty's 2005-2008 study about museum websites and visitorship. He interviewed 1200 visitors at 9 museum websites and asked them what their expectations were for the website. http://marty.ci.fsu.edu/preprints/marty_mmc_2008.pdf (preprint) According to his research, a majority of online visitors (60-70%) believe that the website should offer access to research materials and online collections. The Canadian Heritage Information Network's 2004 study showed 50% of visitors go to the website to learn about the collections. "2004 Survey of Visitors to Museums? Web Space and Physical Space" http://www.pro.rcip-chin.gc.ca/contenu_numerique-digital_content/2004survey-2004survey/index-eng.jsp Also check out the the IMLS National Study on the Use of Libraries, Museums and the Internet, 2008: http://interconnectionsreport.org/ It suggests that there is, in fact, a positive correlation between website use and on-site visitation. From the intro: "The study concludes that ?the amount of use of the Internet is positively correlated with the number of in-person visits to museums and has a positive effect on in-person visits to public libraries" Hope these are of use, ~Perian P.S. because the question will invariably arise, when I was at the Magnes, we saw our R&R revenue increase by about 500% within the first year following online publication of the collections. Some of that revenue was due to a big book publication; take that away, the increase was around 100-150%. On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Deborah Wythe <deborahwythe at hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Maggie, > > We've have had an uptick in image requests since putting the full collection on line -- makes sense, of course: people looking for images are going to want to see images. Having PayPal available for quick purchases and people who want an image to print and hang on their wall has also helped. > > I don't think there's any competition between catalogs and online collections: the first is about interpretation, pulling together related groups, and (yes) providing beautiful images. The second is about searching, images, and data, and (in our case) interaction, tagging, commenting. > > I don't have stats on hand, but you could look over our blog posts about the collections online and see if there are any comments that ring true to you. This one is a good starting point http://bit.ly/jPSKXk (I can't believe it's only a year ago that we released everything!) Try the Labs pages, too: http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/labs/ > > I'm also not sure that collection online is about attendance -- at least not in a bricks and mortar sense. We all need to start seeing our audience as something broader than the people who walk in the door. People who don't actually come to the museum don't pay admission, but when we build worldwide audience and community, we're banking for the future. If people have a good experience with your collection online and the rest of your website and feel connected with you on a personal level, that may prime them to visit the next time they're in the area, or to talk you up and spread the word ("The Brooklyn Museum is a way cool place."). > > Deb Wythe > Brooklyn Museum > > deborahwythe at hotmail.com > > > > > From: maggie.hanson at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:24:06 -0700 > To: mcn-l at mcn.edu > Subject: [MCN-L] Online Collections Publication > > (*I apologize if anyone has already received this message. I'm having > trouble with my subscription so I'm trying from a different email address!*) > > Hi, all! > > We are in the nascent stages of publishing museum objects online. I?ve > recently had a few staff members ask questions and raise concerns about > online publication hurting exhibition catalog sales (and that general idea). > This is an old concern that I know has been disputed and calmed over the > past decade or so, but it?s a new concept/process for some of our staff. > I?d like to share some examples or refer concerned parties to statistics > that show that online publication of collections has been shown to *increase > * attendance and sales. I know that there are good quotes in the *LA Art > Online* report; can anyone point me toward other reports, stats, or personal > anecdotes that I could share? Thanks so much! > > Maggie > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ mcn-l mailing list mcn-l at mcn.edu http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l End of mcn-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 24 ************************************* ********************************************************************************************* AWM DISCLAIMER: This message may contain confidential information and is intended only for its recipient(s). If you have received this email by error, please delete this e-mail from your system and notify the sender immediately. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure. E-mail information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late, be incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message. *********************************************************************************************
