Hi there, we are capturing HD-SDI video material ( 1920 x 1080 ) ( from EX1's and a custom built miniature HD camera) onto two physical media,
a) SxS memory cards, available in 8Gb. 16Gb and 32Gb sizes ( via EX1's) b) Sony Professional XDCAM optical discs , 50Gb capacity. ( via 500m of fiber and our wildlife camera 70ft up a Pine tree, first HD webcam in Europe!) Running the image processing/editing on a high spec Apple Powerbook Pro, plus a Sony XDCAM disc reader. The SxS cards slot straight into the Powerbook. We use a combination of Sony utilities and Apple's Final Cut Studio to process these clips at full resolution ( 330Mb/min!!), inc audio or to downsized them for various purposes, DVD's web clips, smaller devices perhaps using H264 or other codecs We are looking at installing Apple's new Final Cut Server application on our network to manage our growing clip library. This software costs approx $999. Really needs a RAID storage set up too. A lot of learning curve on this workflow though and wholly dependent on Sony and to a lesser extent Apple, but good company to keep I think! The EX1 costs about $8000? Bill On 28 May 2008, at 21:42, Christopher J. Mackie wrote: > Once you get the question of recording devices settled and have to > start > tackling the question of how to get the recordings processed, stored, > and disseminated, you might want to look at a project called OpenCast > that UC-Berkeley is leading (with support from the Hewlett and Mellon > Foundations). They're still in design phase, but should be building > useful technology later this year or early next year. > > It's a higher ed project, but nothing about it is particularly > higher-ed-specific, so no reason a museum couldn't take full > advantage, > and they've got some vendors interested in helping if you don't > have the > in-house expertise to set up and run something open source > yourself. The > use-case on which they're focusing (lecture capture and dissemination) > isn't exactly the same as processing field recordings, but given the > diversity of institutions already engaged, what they design and build > should be able to help almost any institution that has to collect, > manage, and disseminate rich media. Besides, it's an open project: > they'd welcome your participation, and your seat at the table could > ensure that the project does what you need. > > It's a very ugly URL, sorry.... > > http://confluence.media.berkeley.edu/confluence/display/WCTREQ/ > OpenCast+ > Community-+Home > > Hope this helps, --Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On > Behalf Of > mcn-l-request at mcn.edu > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:00 PM > To: mcn-l at mcn.edu > Subject: mcn-l Digest, Vol 32, Issue 20 > > Send mcn-l mailing list submissions to > mcn-l at mcn.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mcn-l-request at mcn.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mcn-l-owner at mcn.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of mcn-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. A good "field" video recorder (Ari Davidow) > 2. Re: A good "field" video recorder (Bill Gardner) > 3. Re: A good "field" video recorder (Ari Davidow) > 4. Re: image annotation tools (Arno Bosse) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:03:21 -0400 > From: "Ari Davidow" <aridavidow at gmail.com> > Subject: [MCN-L] A good "field" video recorder > To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu> > Message-ID: > <747cfaf50805271203q714596afhb2a55947af389a70 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The idea of using video for oral histories (vs. audio only) seems > to be > still of some controversy among oral historians. But, we used video > for > one > huge project last year, and I say, no going back. Especially when we > consider that these are recordings for people to view and interact > with > (how, we haven't yet determined) on the web, the use of audio seems > so, > well, last century. > > So, if you are recording video at events, or in gathering oral > histories, > what cameras (digicams? video recorders?) have you found that work > well? > I'm > pretty sure that we're ready to go the all-digital route--downloading > data > from mini-dv tapes to the computer is a pain--but I don't want to > end up > with the video equivalent of mp3s--files of relatively low, > lossily-compressed video that will cause us great depression ten years > hence > when, had we something even as good as .avi files of the 2000s, we > could > generate better public viewing versions than today's mpegs. > > ari > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:04:39 +0100 > From: Bill Gardner <billgardner1 at mac.com> > Subject: Re: [MCN-L] A good "field" video recorder > To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu> > Message-ID: <12BFBAC9-DE93-4895-BF39-81057AD811A5 at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Hi Ari, > > We are using Sony EX1 solid state HD recorders very successfully, see > also the Panasonic P2 system. > > Also look for the FLASH XDR HD field recorder that uses SD cards. > > Regards > > Bill Gardner SWT > On 27 May 2008, at 20:03, Ari Davidow wrote: > >> The idea of using video for oral histories (vs. audio only) seems >> to be >> still of some controversy among oral historians. But, we used video >> for one >> huge project last year, and I say, no going back. Especially when we >> consider that these are recordings for people to view and interact >> with >> (how, we haven't yet determined) on the web, the use of audio seems >> so, >> well, last century. >> >> So, if you are recording video at events, or in gathering oral >> histories, >> what cameras (digicams? video recorders?) have you found that work >> well? I'm >> pretty sure that we're ready to go the all-digital route-- >> downloading data >> from mini-dv tapes to the computer is a pain--but I don't want to >> end up >> with the video equivalent of mp3s--files of relatively low, >> lossily-compressed video that will cause us great depression ten >> years hence >> when, had we something even as good as .avi files of the 2000s, we >> could >> generate better public viewing versions than today's mpegs. >> >> ari >> _______________________________________________ >> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum >> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) >> >> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu >> >> To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: >> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:56:00 -0400 > From: "Ari Davidow" <aridavidow at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [MCN-L] A good "field" video recorder > To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu> > Message-ID: > <747cfaf50805280656n78add021pb7f6b8a40e748aab at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > That, and its successors, look like amazing cameras. We have just been > adjusting to the idea of spending $1k--the current unit, the EX3, > retails > for $13k. > > My instinct tells me that we are better getting a $1k (or less) camera > and > learning what matters most to us, then spending $13k and realizing > that > we > could have comfortably done well with less. > > One factor is size and portability. Virtually all of our videocam use > would > be for oral histories, where the camera would be mounted on a > tripod and > pretty much left pointing at the respondent for the whole interview. A > small > device that could be handheld, or mounted on a tripod, that saved in > reasonably high def, is ideal. (Small, because not all staff here are > hefty, > and because we will have a LOT of equipment for some events. What I > really > want is the digital equivalent of a mini-dv cam; but without those > unreliable mini-dv media. The closest equivalent I see today is > something > using the newish (and still funky for editing) AVCHD format. The Canon > HF10 > actually looks plausible for our purposes. 16GB cards should hold > about > 1.5hours each, which would work very well for the uses we anticipate > now. > > The immediate scenario that we are looking at is something we call the > roadshow. That is a party where we invite several respondents to bring > images or objects for scanning, and they also share stories. In some > cases > they share together, and we would also tape individual oral histories > onsite--but relatively short ones, as we'd want to tape everyone. We > have > some nice digital audio recorders, but I don't know how much they > would > be > used--it seems really clear that people are comfortable talking to a > camcorder, and that people love seeing the video along with hearing > voices, > so we end up with a more accessible recording in that sense (that > people > will enjoy listening enough so that they actually listen more). > > But, this is just me blathering. I may be totally off-base in terms of > real > needs, or better ways to gather these types of materials. And lots of > people > are going to submit interviews and images taken with their cellphones, > for > goodness' sake, so there has to be a limit as to how much I am willing > to > obsess about resolution and quality. > > ari > > > > > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Bill Gardner <billgardner1 at mac.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Ari, >> >> We are using Sony EX1 solid state HD recorders very successfully, see >> also the Panasonic P2 system. >> >> Also look for the FLASH XDR HD field recorder that uses SD cards. >> >> Regards >> >> Bill Gardner SWT >> On 27 May 2008, at 20:03, Ari Davidow wrote: >> >>> The idea of using video for oral histories (vs. audio only) seems >>> to be >>> still of some controversy among oral historians. But, we used video >>> for one >>> huge project last year, and I say, no going back. Especially when we >>> consider that these are recordings for people to view and interact >>> with >>> (how, we haven't yet determined) on the web, the use of audio seems >>> so, >>> well, last century. >>> >>> So, if you are recording video at events, or in gathering oral >>> histories, >>> what cameras (digicams? video recorders?) have you found that work >>> well? I'm >>> pretty sure that we're ready to go the all-digital route-- >>> downloading data >>> from mini-dv tapes to the computer is a pain--but I don't want to >>> end up >>> with the video equivalent of mp3s--files of relatively low, >>> lossily-compressed video that will cause us great depression ten >>> years hence >>> when, had we something even as good as .avi files of the 2000s, we >>> could >>> generate better public viewing versions than today's mpegs. >>> >>> ari >>> _______________________________________________ >>> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum >>> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) >>> >>> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu >>> >>> To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: >>> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum > Computer >> Network (http://www.mcn.edu) >> >> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu >> >> To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: >> http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:00:51 -0500 > From: Arno Bosse <abosse at uchicago.edu> > Subject: Re: [MCN-L] image annotation tools > To: mcn-l at mcn.edu > Message-ID: <C096F661-B885-43E4-99CB-AD2D9F05DD2E at uchicago.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > I was indeed looking for something like http://fotonotes.net/ - thank > you to everyone who sent me suggestions on & off the list. > > cheers, > > Arno Bosse > Senior Director for Technology > Division of the Humanities > University of Chicago > 1115 E. 58th St., Walker Room 213F > Chicago, IL 60637 > Phone: 773-702-6177 > Fax: 773-834-5867 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > mcn-l mailing list > mcn-l at mcn.edu > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l > > > End of mcn-l Digest, Vol 32, Issue 20 > ************************************* > _______________________________________________ > You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum > Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) > > To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu > > To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: > http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
