Nik (and others) — I agree, it’s a surprising viewpoint and I’m always a bit surprised when I encounter it but usually expect that it’s a by-product of other internal factors.
In this instance, I wonder if it’s simply that it’s a small museum with limited resources and with an IT staff (or person) that has limited experience outside of a range of solutions. And, with limited resources to spend on exploring something new vs something that’s known. That doesn’t mean it’s a good situation but clearly a support system and possible mentorship from experienced colleagues in the field may get that museum closer to an open-source solution. It’s also certainly possible that they’ve been burned in the past. (If only there was a stuffed therapy dog handy so they could point out where it hurts). In which case, not only mentorship but ongoing resources of assistance or guidance would help ease that path to recovery. -bw. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruce Wyman | Principal bwy...@usd-mach.com | 720.208.6586 USD Design | MACH Consulting | www.usd-mach.com Strategy • Design • Concept • Implementation > On Aug 17, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Nik Honeysett <nhoneys...@bpoc.org> wrote: > > This is a great left-turn from a ULAN question. Both the point of view of OSS > and the empowerment role of IT rather than as gatekeeper is fairly ubiquitous > in our field, and while I know this comes from frustration, (and I am guilty) > critique and antagonism, I’ve learned is not the answer. How do we engage and > educate these folks? > > -nik > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Nik Honeysett > CEO, BPOC > e: nhoneys...@bpoc.org > m: (805) 402-3326 > via mobile > >> On Aug 17, 2019, at 10:15, Sina Bahram <s...@sinabahram.com> wrote: >> >> Wow. Your network team is exhibiting professional negligence, bordering on >> pure incompetence, if they are asserting that open-source is not secure. >> That's an incredibly concerning lack of understanding of the most basic >> tenants of technology and modern operations. This debate was solved decades >> ago, not months ago. Trillions of dollars of operations occur over >> open-source technologies in the most relaxed environments in the world to >> the most secure ones. >> >> There are a myriad of examples of where open source and open standards is >> the "only" way to ensure true security, interoperability, accessibility, >> data transparency, and so much more. >> >> Good luck. You have my empathy. >> >> Take care, >> Sina >> >> President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc. >> Phone: 919-345-3832 >> https://www.PAC.bz >> Twitter: @SinaBahram >> Personal Website: https://www.sinabahram.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mcn-l <mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu> On Behalf Of Matt Morgan >> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:06 AM >> To: mcn-l@mcn.edu >> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Assistance needed with ULAN data >> >> Shyam's being kind here. It's 2019. I can't believe I'm seeing that >> statement. If that's what they really said, it's completely >> unprofessional at this point. >> >> OpenRefine is in a category unto itself. It's worth them spending some >> time "securing" it, if they're serious. But what they're really saying >> is "we want to control what software you use to make our jobs minimally >> easier." What they could be saying is "IT is about empowering the staff >> with tech, even when it's hard." >> >> Matt Morgan >> CTO >> Curtis Institute of Music >> >>> On 8/16/19 4:17 PM, Shyam Oberoi wrote: >>> "My network team took it away because they believe open source is generally >>> not secure." >>> >>> That's insane, the product was developed by Google! >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenRefine >>> >>> >>> Shyam Oberoi >>> Chief Digital Officer >>> Royal Ontario Museum >>> O: 416-586-7935 >>> E: sobe...@rom.on.ca >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mcn-l <mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu> On Behalf Of Nancy Hoffman >>> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 2:48 PM >>> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l@mcn.edu> >>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Assistance needed with ULAN data >>> >>> Hi Samantha - >>> >>> I have a question related to your answer for Erin. Do you know of a program >>> other than OpenRefine that can fetch URIs from the Getty's reconciliation >>> services? I have been using OpenRefine for AAT vocabulary terms in a data >>> publishing project. My network team took it away because they believe open >>> source is generally not secure. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -Nancy >>> >>> Nancy Buck Hoffman >>> >>> Project Assistant >>> >>> Archaeology Collections >>> >>> Kellogg Center >>> >>> Minnesota Historical Society >>> >>> Saint Paul, MN 55102 >>> >>> 612-725-2371 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:40 PM Sami Norling <sami.norl...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Erin, >>>> >>>> I would highly recommend using OpenRefine <http://openrefine.org>'s >>>> reconciliation service to reconcile the museum's data with ULAN entities. >>>> Once reconciled in OpenRefine, you can then enrich the museum's >>>> existing data with any of the data points available in ULAN. I am >>>> going through this process with the Indianapolis Museum of Art data to >>>> better support our linked data initiatives as well as to ensure that >>>> our data is as complete as it can be. >>>> >>>> As an added step, I would also suggest that when you are done with the >>>> reconciliation work, you contact the Getty vocabularies team to >>>> inquire about contributing information about artists not currently in >>>> ULAN to their data set. My understanding is that they are very >>>> encouraging of such contributions. >>>> >>>> Please consider this e-mail a super basic overview, and feel free to >>>> contact me directly for more specific information about how to use >>>> OpenRefine and their reconciliation services for your project. I'm >>>> more than happy to help! >>>> >>>> *Samantha Norling* >>>> >>>> Digital Collections Manager >>>> >>>> *Newfields Lab* – Technology for Nature & the Arts >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> *Newfields* >>>> >>>> 4000 Michigan Road >>>> Indianapolis, IN 46208 >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> snorl...@discovernewfields.org >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:20 AM Erin Richardson < >>>> e...@erinrichardsonconsulting.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi wise MCN-L members! >>>>> >>>>> I am working with a museum to clean up their data. I don't have a >>>>> lot of backend data experience. My task is to populate artist >>>>> records with ULAN data. They're using EmbARK. I'd like to upload the >>>>> relevant metadata >>>> using >>>>> the ULAN ID as a link. I'm having difficulty accessing the ULAN data >>>>> from getty's download center. >>>>> https://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/obtain/download.ht >>>>> ml >>>>> >>>>> Note: I know next to nothing about data that is not in CSV format. >>>>> I've tried to convert the sample ULAN XML data to CSV but am getting >>>>> lots of errors. >>>>> >>>>> I don't even really understand the reasonable-ness of this question, >>>>> so please bear with me! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any help you're able to offer! >>>>> >>>>> Erin >>>>> >>>>> _____________ >>>>> >>>>> Erin Richardson, PhD, Principal >>>>> >>>>> Erin Richardson Consulting >>>>> <https://www.erinrichardsonconsulting.com/> >>>>> >>>>> 518.577.0186 >>>>> >>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinerichardson/> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum >>>> Computer >>>>> Network (http://www.mcn.edu) >>>>> >>>>> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l@mcn.edu >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: >>>>> http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l >>>>> >>>>> The MCN-L archives can be found at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mcn-l@mcn.edu/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum >>>> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) >>>> >>>> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l@mcn.edu >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: >>>> http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l >>>> >>>> The MCN-L archives can be found at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mcn-l@mcn.edu/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer >>> Network (http://www.mcn.edu) >>> >>> To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l@mcn.edu >>> >>> To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: >>> http://mcn.edu/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l >>> >>> The MCN-L archives can be found at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mcn-l@mcn.edu/ >>> ON NOW >>> Treasures of a Desert Kingdom: The Royal Arts of Jodhpur, >>> India<https://www.rom.on.ca/en/exhibitions-galleries/exhibitions/rajasthan> >>> In the Age of Rembrandt: Dutch Paintings from the Museum of Fine Arts, >>> Boston<https://www.rom.on.ca/en/exhibitions-galleries/exhibitions/in-the-age-of-rembrandt-dutch-paintings-from-the-museum-of-fine> >>> It's Alive! 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