Ok. So do you find that from central to say Japan you have lots of issues? How 
is it in Japan from a mco client there communicating with just Japanese nodes. 

Are you aiming to build one giant 40k node mcollective - not a good idea - or 
several smaller ones? Or using sub collectives?

For sure on many levels a single giant 40k node will not work but with what you 
show a number of subcollectives etc should work if it's a hub and spoke design

How many nodes per country? And just one activemq there? 

> On 4 Mar 2017, at 07:39, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Sorry yes mco rpc rpcutil ping and I mentioned wrongly. 
> 
> you can find my setup on 
> https://awwapp.com/s/f0123542-5072-43dc-94a1-72f33fbbfcb1/
> 
> and here is my central server activemq.xml file. Just given you limited 
> number of sites only here and I have many number of sites and total number of 
> servers are 40000+ if you combine all sites. Also am using activemq version 
> 5.14.3.
> 
> =================================================================================
> <beans
>   xmlns="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans";
>   xmlns:amq="http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core";
>   xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
>   xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans 
> http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans/spring-beans-2.0.xsd
>   http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core 
> http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core/activemq-core.xsd
>   http://activemq.apache.org/camel/schema/spring 
> http://activemq.apache.org/camel/schema/spring/camel-spring.xsd";>
> 
>   <!-- Allows us to use system properties as variables in this configuration 
> file -->
>   <bean 
> class="org.springframework.beans.factory.config.PropertyPlaceholderConfigurer">
>     <property name="locations">
>       <value>file:${activemq.base}/conf/credentials.properties</value>
>     </property>
>   </bean>
> 
> <!--
> The <broker> element is used to configure the ActiveMQ broker.
> -->
> 
> <broker xmlns="http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core"; brokerName="central" 
> networkConnectorStartAsync="true" dataDirectory="${activemq.base}/data" 
> schedulePeriodForDestinationPurge="60000">
> 
>   <managementContext>
>     <managementContext createConnector="false"/>
>   </managementContext>
> 
>   <persistenceAdapter>
>     <kahaDB directory="${activemq.data}/kahadb" journalMaxFileLength="64mb" 
> preallocationStrategy="zeros" indexCacheSize="30000" 
> journalDiskSyncStrategy="never" maxAsyncJobs="30000" 
> indexWriteBatchSize="30000" />
>   </persistenceAdapter>
> 
>   <destinationPolicy>
>     <policyMap>
>       <policyEntries>
>         <policyEntry queue=">" producerFlowControl="false" 
> gcInactiveDestinations="true" inactiveTimoutBeforeGC="300000"/>
>         <policyEntry topic=">" producerFlowControl="false"/>
>       </policyEntries>
>     </policyMap>
>   </destinationPolicy>
> 
>   <networkConnectors>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="america-topic"
>       uri="static:(tcp://america:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>       dynamicOnly="true">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName="ActiveMQ.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="america_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="america-queue"
>       uri="static:(tcp://america:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>           prefetchSize="20000"
>       dynamicOnly="true"
>       conduitSubscriptions="false">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <queue physicalName="america_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="canada-topic"
>       uri="static:(tcp://canada:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>       dynamicOnly="true">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName="ActiveMQ.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="canada_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="canada-queue"
>       uri="static:(tcp://canada:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>           prefetchSize="20000"
>       dynamicOnly="true"
>       conduitSubscriptions="false">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <queue physicalName="canada_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="london-topic"
>       uri="static:(tcp://london:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>       dynamicOnly="true">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName="ActiveMQ.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="london_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="london-queue"
>       uri="static:(tcp://london:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>           prefetchSize="20000"
>       dynamicOnly="true"
>       conduitSubscriptions="false">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <queue physicalName="london_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="australia-topics"
>       uri="static:(tcp://australia:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>       dynamicOnly="true">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName="ActiveMQ.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="australia_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="australia-queue"
>       uri="static:(tcp://australia:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>           prefetchSize="20000"
>       dynamicOnly="true"
>       conduitSubscriptions="false">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <queue physicalName="australia_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="europe-topic"
>       uri="static:(tcp://europe:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>       dynamicOnly="true">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName="ActiveMQ.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="europe_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="europe-queue"
>       uri="static:(tcp://europe:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>           prefetchSize="20000"
>       dynamicOnly="true"
>       conduitSubscriptions="false">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <queue physicalName="europe_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="china-topic"
>       uri="static:(tcp://china:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>       dynamicOnly="true">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName="ActiveMQ.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="china_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="china-queue"
>       uri="static:(tcp://china:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>           prefetchSize="20000"
>       dynamicOnly="true"
>       conduitSubscriptions="false">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <queue physicalName="china_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="asia-topic"
>       uri="static:(tcp://asia:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>       dynamicOnly="true">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName="ActiveMQ.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="asia_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="asia-queue"
>       uri="static:(tcp://asia:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>           prefetchSize="20000"
>       dynamicOnly="true"
>       conduitSubscriptions="false">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <queue physicalName="asia_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="japan-topic"
>       uri="static:(tcp://japan:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>       dynamicOnly="true">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName="ActiveMQ.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <topic physicalName="japan_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>     <networkConnector
>       name="japan-queue"
>       uri="static:(tcp://japan:61616)"
>       duplex="true"
>           decreaseNetworkConsumerPriority="true"
>           prefetchSize="20000"
>       dynamicOnly="true"
>       conduitSubscriptions="false">
>       <excludedDestinations>
>         <topic physicalName=">" />
>       </excludedDestinations>
>       <dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>         <queue physicalName="mcollective.>" />
>         <queue physicalName="japan_mcollective.>" />
>       </dynamicallyIncludedDestinations>
>     </networkConnector>
> 
>   </networkConnectors>
> 
> 
>   <systemUsage>
>       <systemUsage>
>           <memoryUsage>
>               <memoryUsage percentOfJvmHeap="70" />
>           </memoryUsage>
>           <storeUsage>
>               <storeUsage limit="1 gb"/>
>           </storeUsage>
>           <tempUsage>
>               <tempUsage limit="1 gb"/>
>           </tempUsage>
>       </systemUsage>
>   </systemUsage>
> 
>   <transportConnectors>
>     <transportConnector name="openwire" uri="tcp://0.0.0.0:61616" 
> updateClusterClients="true"/>
>     <transportConnector name="stomp+nio" uri="stomp+nio://0.0.0.0:61614"/>
>   </transportConnectors>
> 
> </broker>
> 
> </beans>
> ======================================================================
> 
> Here is one of the site's activemq.xml file which identical on all sites,
> 
> ======================================================================
> <beans
>   xmlns="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans";
>   xmlns:amq="http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core";
>   xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
>   xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans 
> http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans/spring-beans-2.0.xsd
>   http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core 
> http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core/activemq-core.xsd
>   http://activemq.apache.org/camel/schema/spring 
> http://activemq.apache.org/camel/schema/spring/camel-spring.xsd";>
> 
>   <!-- Allows us to use system properties as variables in this configuration 
> file -->
>   <bean 
> class="org.springframework.beans.factory.config.PropertyPlaceholderConfigurer">
>     <property name="locations">
>       <value>file:${activemq.base}/conf/credentials.properties</value>
>     </property>
>   </bean>
> 
> <!--
> The <broker> element is used to configure the ActiveMQ broker.
> -->
> <broker xmlns="http://activemq.apache.org/schema/core"; brokerName="america" 
> dataDirectory="${activemq.base}/data" networkConnectorStartAsync="true" 
> schedulePeriodForDestinationPurge="60000">
> 
>   <managementContext>
>     <managementContext createConnector="false"/>
>   </managementContext>
> 
>   <persistenceAdapter>
>     <kahaDB directory="${activemq.data}/kahadb"/>
>   </persistenceAdapter>
> 
>   <destinationPolicy>
>     <policyMap>
>       <policyEntries>
>         <policyEntry queue=">" producerFlowControl="false" 
> gcInactiveDestinations="true" inactiveTimoutBeforeGC="300000" />
>         <policyEntry topic=">" producerFlowControl="false"/>
>       </policyEntries>
>     </policyMap>
>   </destinationPolicy>
> 
>   <systemUsage>
>     <systemUsage>
>       <memoryUsage>
>         <memoryUsage percentOfJvmHeap="70"/>
>       </memoryUsage>
>       <storeUsage>
>         <storeUsage limit="1 gb"/>
>       </storeUsage>
>       <tempUsage>
>         <tempUsage limit="100 mb"/>
>       </tempUsage>
>     </systemUsage>
>   </systemUsage>
> 
> 
>   <transportConnectors>
>     <transportConnector name="openwire" uri="tcp://0.0.0.0:61616"/>
>     <transportConnector name="stomp+nio" uri="stomp+nio://0.0.0.0:61613"/>
>   </transportConnectors>
> 
> </broker>
> 
> </beans>
> ========================================================================
> 
> here is the wrapper.conf which is identical for all sites included central 
> one,
> 
> ========================================================================
> # ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> # Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
> # contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file distributed with
> # this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership.
> # The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0
> # (the "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance with
> # the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
> #
> # http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
> #
> # Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
> # distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
> # WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
> # See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
> # limitations under the License.
> # ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> #********************************************************************
> # Wrapper Properties
> #********************************************************************
> 
> #wrapper.debug=TRUE
> set.default.ACTIVEMQ_HOME=/usr/share/activemq
> set.default.ACTIVEMQ_BASE=/usr/share/activemq
> set.default.ACTIVEMQ_CONF=%ACTIVEMQ_BASE%/conf
> set.default.ACTIVEMQ_DATA=%ACTIVEMQ_BASE%/data
> wrapper.working.dir=/
> 
> # Java Application
> wrapper.java.command=java
> 
> # Java Main class.  This class must implement the WrapperListener interface
> #  or guarantee that the WrapperManager class is initialized.  Helper
> #  classes are provided to do this for you.  See the Integration section
> #  of the documentation for details.
> wrapper.java.mainclass=org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperSimpleApp
> 
> # Java Classpath (include wrapper.jar)  Add class path elements as
> #  needed starting from 1
> wrapper.java.classpath.1=%ACTIVEMQ_HOME%/bin/wrapper.jar
> wrapper.java.classpath.2=%ACTIVEMQ_HOME%/bin/activemq.jar
> 
> # Java Library Path (location of Wrapper.DLL or libwrapper.so)
> wrapper.java.library.path.1=%ACTIVEMQ_HOME%/bin
> 
> # Java Additional Parameters
> # note that n is the parameter number starting from 1.
> wrapper.java.additional.1=-Dactivemq.home=%ACTIVEMQ_HOME%
> wrapper.java.additional.2=-Dactivemq.base=%ACTIVEMQ_BASE%
> wrapper.java.additional.3=-Djavax.net.ssl.keyStorePassword=password
> wrapper.java.additional.4=-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStorePassword=password
> wrapper.java.additional.5=-Djavax.net.ssl.keyStore=%ACTIVEMQ_CONF%/broker.ks
> wrapper.java.additional.6=-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=%ACTIVEMQ_CONF%/broker.ts
> wrapper.java.additional.7=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote
> wrapper.java.additional.8=-Dorg.apache.activemq.UseDedicatedTaskRunner=false
> wrapper.java.additional.9=-Djava.util.logging.config.file=logging.properties
> wrapper.java.additional.10=-Dactivemq.conf=%ACTIVEMQ_CONF%
> wrapper.java.additional.11=-Dactivemq.data=%ACTIVEMQ_DATA%
> wrapper.java.additional.12=-Djava.security.auth.login.config=%ACTIVEMQ_CONF%/login.config
> wrapper.java.additional.13=-Dhawtio.realm=activemq
> wrapper.java.additional.14=-Dhawtio.role=admins
> wrapper.java.additional.15=-Dhawtio.rolePrincipalClasses=org.apache.activemq.jaas.GroupPrincipal
> wrapper.java.additional.16=-Xms16384m
> wrapper.java.additional.17=-Xmx16384m
> wrapper.java.additional.18=-XX:+UseG1GC
> wrapper.java.additional.19=-Dorg.apache.activemq.kahaDB.files.skipMetadataUpdate=true
> wrapper.java.additional.20=-XX:MaxMetaspaceSize=16000m
> 
> # Uncomment to enable jmx
> #wrapper.java.additional.n=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.port=1616
> #wrapper.java.additional.n=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.authenticate=false
> #wrapper.java.additional.n=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.ssl=false
> 
> # Uncomment to enable YourKit profiling
> #wrapper.java.additional.n=-Xrunyjpagent
> 
> # Uncomment to enable remote debugging
> #wrapper.java.additional.n=-Xdebug -Xnoagent -Djava.compiler=NONE
> #wrapper.java.additional.n=-Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,server=y,suspend=n,address=5005
> 
> # Initial Java Heap Size (in MB)
> #wrapper.java.initmemory=256
> 
> # Maximum Java Heap Size (in MB)
> #wrapper.java.maxmemory=12288
> 
> # Application parameters.  Add parameters as needed starting from 1
> wrapper.app.parameter.1=org.apache.activemq.console.Main
> wrapper.app.parameter.2=start
> 
> #********************************************************************
> # Wrapper Logging Properties
> #********************************************************************
> # Format of output for the console.  (See docs for formats)
> wrapper.console.format=PM
> 
> # Log Level for console output.  (See docs for log levels)
> wrapper.console.loglevel=INFO
> 
> # Log file to use for wrapper output logging.
> wrapper.logfile=%ACTIVEMQ_DATA%/wrapper.log
> 
> # Format of output for the log file.  (See docs for formats)
> wrapper.logfile.format=LPTM
> 
> # Log Level for log file output.  (See docs for log levels)
> wrapper.logfile.loglevel=INFO
> 
> # Maximum size that the log file will be allowed to grow to before
> #  the log is rolled. Size is specified in bytes.  The default value
> #  of 0, disables log rolling.  May abbreviate with the 'k' (kb) or
> #  'm' (mb) suffix.  For example: 10m = 10 megabytes.
> wrapper.logfile.maxsize=0
> 
> # Maximum number of rolled log files which will be allowed before old
> #  files are deleted.  The default value of 0 implies no limit.
> wrapper.logfile.maxfiles=0
> 
> # Log Level for sys/event log output.  (See docs for log levels)
> wrapper.syslog.loglevel=NONE
> 
> #********************************************************************
> # Wrapper Windows Properties
> #********************************************************************
> # Title to use when running as a console
> wrapper.console.title=ActiveMQ
> 
> #********************************************************************
> # Wrapper Windows NT/2000/XP Service Properties
> #********************************************************************
> # WARNING - Do not modify any of these properties when an application
> #  using this configuration file has been installed as a service.
> #  Please uninstall the service before modifying this section.  The
> #  service can then be reinstalled.
> 
> # Name of the service
> wrapper.ntservice.name=ActiveMQ
> 
> # Display name of the service
> wrapper.ntservice.displayname=ActiveMQ
> 
> # Description of the service
> wrapper.ntservice.description=ActiveMQ Broker
> 
> # Service dependencies.  Add dependencies as needed starting from 1
> wrapper.ntservice.dependency.1=
> 
> # Mode in which the service is installed.  AUTO_START or DEMAND_START
> wrapper.ntservice.starttype=AUTO_START
> 
> # Allow the service to interact with the desktop.
> wrapper.ntservice.interactive=false
> =============================================================================
> 
> 
> Regards
> Ravi
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 11:31:49 AM UTC+5:30, R.I.Pienaar wrote:
>> You'll need to give some details on how activemq is configured
>> 
>> mco ping does not use the --nodes argument. Try  mco rpc rpcutil ping. That 
>> will use it. 
>> 
>> ---
>> R.I.Pienaar
>> 
>>> On 4 Mar 2017, at 05:29, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I want to use mcollective on geographically and attempted to configure 
>>> ActiveMQ network of brokers for that. After the configuration everything is 
>>> working fine as expected but only problem is, when I run any mco query for 
>>> multiple servers then its getting disconnected for sometime when many of 
>>> the not responded. 
>>> 
>>> For example, I have connected 1000 clients for each location of ActiveMQ 
>>> broker, and am deploying mcollective on many servers and I have the entire 
>>> list of servers(458) which am deploying it. So when I run mco ping or any 
>>> mco queries with --nodes=<server_list_file> geographically am getting 
>>> response from 243 servers which means mcollective configured successfully 
>>> on these servers and no response from other servers which means mcollective 
>>> not configured yet on those servers. But the problem is here many servers 
>>> are not responded for mcollective and due to this when I run the mco query 
>>> on connected servers am not getting response. But If I leave for few 
>>> minutes and then run the same query against working servers then am getting 
>>> response. Am suspecting that when I run mco query and many servers are not 
>>> responded then middleware takes time to clear pending queues or something 
>>> happening. Any idea to tune this?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Ravi
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