>Rick wrote,
| V2Music says:
|
| > Below is the letter which was sent to Mr. Mercer and which was posted
| > on alt.audio.minidisc and emailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] per
| > Mr. Mercer's request.
|
| But they will not be able to mail to MD-L unless they subscribe, which
| I doubt they do.
>I've said as much to Mark in private email. They also are not likely to
>subscribe just in order to post here, nor to locate a news server just to
>post to alt.audio.minidisc.
I must take the blame for this one since I missed the obvious. It is largely
a non-issue with me but I do take the blame for it in a sense. Since their
other two posts did not come from a valid e-mail address I have little doubt
they would use the same deception toward the MD community here. See below
for the level of deception the V2 machine will use in their contempt for
digital recording.
V2 Music has posted no direct statements of their alleged SCMS policy in the
public newsgroups. The following will explain what someone has posted.
Either they are not from V2 or if they are they are setting themselves up to
deny they wrote it at a latter time. Why would they do this? The only
logical reason I can think of is so when they start blocking other CD�s in
mass they can deny they ever had such a policy. Why else would they hide
behind phony addresses? If they honestly had a policy of allowing first
generation digital recordings and had the intention to adhere to the policy
they would simply state it under a litigate e-mail address. Two posts have
been sent claiming to be V2 music stating a AHRA of 1992 policy, both have
came e-mail addresses unrelated to V2 official e-mail addresses. (See below
for official V2 e-mail addresses) I will address both of the alleged posts.
| So, if they mailed MD-L it probably bounced. And -- did it never appear in
| alt.audio.minidisc?
>I've yet to see it in alt.audio.minidisc. I saw it only on the MiniDiscus-
>sion Boards, but it came from an IP address whose assignment I can't track
>down [208.227.152.2] and which certainly is not that of v2music.com nor
>mail0.v2music.com. Possibly it was a legimitate post by a V2 employee
using
>his/her own personal account on an ISP, but we can't be sure. *Anybody*
can
>put any name or email address on a post on those boards, and except for the
>IP address it's all on the honor system.
>These IP addresses are associated with v2music.com:
> v2music.com internet address = 195.153.200.50
> mail0.v2music.com internet address = 194.129.30.130
> www.v2music.com internet address = 195.153.200.50
>Why did the post come from somewhere else? My guess is that someone who
>received it in email posted it, and it was not posted by anyone at V2.
This is the second one, Thank you Mr. Tamkin, I do not have the expertise to
do what you have done here but it seems obvious that the policy did not come
directly from V2. Once again why is this. Ask me latter when the V2 machine
leads the SCMS digitally blocked standard stopping all of us from legally
recording any CD�s.
| I was able to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without problems.
>Did you get a reply, even an autoresponse, Rick, or did it just fail to
>bounce?
This must be a problem with my server or they have just locked me out of
their e-mail system. If it is legitimate it was never a public post and as I
said before private e-mail holds little weight with me. If it is their
actually policy to allow a first generation digital recording in accordance
with the AHRA of 1992 they must stop crawling around in the dark and make a
public statement. I too have my doubts it actually came from V2 but if it
did they are hiding under rocks again. Why, Lets remember this is a company
who's spokesperson said they digitally block CD's because all home recording
is illegal. (Click on the boycott webpage at the bottom of this post to view
the actual letter.)
The first statement of V2�s policy was in the MD newsgroup. This one came
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] This can be found through a dejanews.com search.
Note this is the only time this address has ever been used (Do a power
search at deja news for the author) Why would V2 go to the extreme to set up
a non V2 related account to post their policy? If V2 honestly had such a
policy would they not put it out for all to see under a V2 address? Why do
they not want their policy known? So they can digitally block CD's and state
they have no such policy. They making no public statements so they can
digitally block CD's in the future and can not be held accountable through a
public statement. What else makes any sense?
>V2's actions remind me of King Saul when he violated the ban on the
Amalekite
>spoils: first he claimed that what he did was right, and then when the pro-
>phet Samuel wouldn't buy that, Saul blamed the soldiers for making him do
it.
>He simply wouldn't accept responsibility for what was under his own
control.
>Likewise, first V2 said that all home recording was piracy and they were
>right; next they blamed the mastering service, denying any responsibility
for
>checking over the content of what they published.
>Saul spent the rest of his life miserable, depressed, and bitter, imagining
a
>mortal enemy in his son-in-law, who was really one of his staunchest
support-
>ers. He died within two years.
Very well said. You are a bit of a scholar.
I mentioned before that my terms have changed because of V2�s trickery. The
most important part of the terms now is V2 must put the policy on their own
webpage. If they honestly have such a policy this should be easy for them.
It must be linked on the main page, not hidden under some unrelated link. It
must be placed on their webpage for no less than a year and the CD exchange
for CD�s that violate their own so-called policy must extend for the same
amount of time. If I see this and they ever send me my replacement AHRA of
1992 compliant CD then I will consider calling the boycott off. Because of
their past behavior I can not second guess their level of deceit so if this
ever goes up on their page I will and also will invite you all to inspect it
for loopholes. After two phony posts this anti-home recording machine known
at V2 can not be trusted until we see it up and it passes the test of
honesty and sincerity.
Till we see this up lets keep the boycott rolling. Lets top the V2 machine
in their tracks before this digital blocking catches on. Write to the artist
below if you believe in what we are doing and demand that their label put up
the policy on their own webpage for no less than a year and offer to replace
all digitally blocked CD�s for the same period. Also tell them you are
informing your friends not to buy V2 CD�s until they do the following. The
addresses are as follows.
UNDERWORLD
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
STEREOPHONICS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
BLESSID UNION OF SOULS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And the V2 addresses as usual are
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Check out the V2 boycott website at�
http://v2musiccds.com/
V2 has treated the digital recording community with nothing but contempt and
scorn. They think we are a fringe group. Lets show them we are not, write to
them, their artist listed above and get your friends who care about this
issue to write them. Forward this post to your friends. We will win this
battle in the proper numbers. Without the proper numbers this will catch on
with other labels. Become a part of the boycott or get ready to dust off
your ratty old cassette decks and take a step backward to 1970's technology.
Thanks for all your support,
Mark
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