Agreed.  I've heard a variety of different audio hi fi components over the
last 2-3 years while a friend and I have been building up our respective
component stereo systems.

Originally my friend was actually intent on buying a Sony receiver, either
digital home theatre or stereo, because of convenience and that it seemed to
offer more (e.g. a remote and a tuner) for the same price as other
amplifiers.

However the sales guy persuaded him to compare it to an integrated amp
(denon and rotel - and these two are probably at the budget end of the int
amp spectrum) and we were blown away by how much better both integrated amps
were - more power and more control of the speaker, better defined bass, and
mostly very clear mid and treble, just better clearer sound really.  

By comparison a receiver sounds "fuzzy".  We're not audiophiles by any
means, but you certainly don't have to be an audiophile to pick up the
difference.  It's not surprising really, the two are designed for different
things: the receiver is really designed for home theatre television/DVD and
the odd radio broadcast in your lounge, and the integrated amp is designed
for music - and has less electrical gadgetry inside to fuzzy up the source
music.  

If you need an amplifier to do both, then I guess you have to get the
receiver, but just remember it's a trade-off - convenience/gizmos against
sound quality.

By the same token i have to say I wasn't surprised by the recent MD-L thread
on how MDs burned on portables sound worse that the same thing burned on a
home deck.  Both "do" the same thing, but a home deck is designed
specifically for it and has all the same bonuses of any other audio
component as against portables or midi systems - isolation of key parts from
interference, more constant power supply, more stable transport etc.

But then you can't take a home deck with you to bootleg a Foo Fighters
concert, can you!

richard

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From: Stainless Steel Rat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Don't get me wrong.  Sony makes some reasonably good stuff.  But comparing
the DE853 with the T760 is like comparing Radio Shack's best speakers to
your PSBs.Agreed.  I've heard quite a few different pieces of hi fi
component equipment over the last 2-3 years while a friend and I have been
building our component stereos up.  The difference  between receivers
(generally) and integrated amps (generally) is amazingly obvious when you
A-B them.  
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