At 00:08 4-8-01 +0100, you wrote:
> > At 17:11 3-8-01 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> > >"Tom P.D. Daniels" wrote:
> > >If I were able to double the bit rate of ATRAC I would get half the
> > >storage space
> > >but " create MDs equivalent to cd-quality" that even " 'golden ear'
> > >people" might
> > >not be able to "detect the difference in a blind listening test"
> >
> > But you aren't (thanks to sony...). That's one of the pre's of
> > mp3 over md.
>
>Having rejoined this list from a lengthy absence, I'm amused to see you all
>discussing the merits of mp3-v-MD... To carry along the lines of Las's
>previous post and his argument above re doubling the bit rate of ATRAC, and
>Tom saying "but you aren't"...
>
>With ATRAC, you *don't* *need* to up the bit rate... Thanks to the likes of
>Sony et al, they have slightly a better idea of what bitrates achieve the
>best sounds that Joe Bloggs on the street.
That's not my point. With the bitrate as it is currently on Standard (non
lp) MD it's still audibly different from the cd, which can be heared by
people with 'golden ears'. Las said that by doubling the bitrate this would
no longer be the case. So my reply was; you can't do that. I'd LIKE to have
a choice like this (which could be implemented on e.g. a pro-deck) but
unfortunately I'm dependend on sony to implement this...And they probably
won't because then itwould be 'too hard'....
>Unfortunately for MP3, there are *way* *too* *many* muppets out there
>creating nasty sounding MP3 files cuz they simply do not have a clue what
>they are doing - there are too many variables involved in creating an MP3
>file. I'm not saying you are a muppet Tom, merely Joe Bloggs who thinks
>it's hip'n'trendy to have an MP3 player but not understand the "mechanics"
>of creating a proper MP3 file in the first instance...
I guess you're right there, but those people probably are the same people
using analog tape for copying music! I am an audio enthousiast meaning i
don want to hear hiss (tape) nor 'flat sound' (low qual.mp3) And since joe
bloggs is probably using a flashy small (memory limited) Flash MP3 player
he'll have no choice but to encode at 128 kbps (and even 96 kbps...)
>The widespread use of Napster proved that hands down... gigabytes upon
>gigabytes of low bitrate song files :| With ATRAC you do not have an option
>to record poorly...
Well you could try md-lp4 ;) If i understand correctly it's about the
'quality' of 64 kbps mp3 (bah !)
>I'm sure this "discussion" will go on and on and on...
Me 2 ;)
Tom
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