Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] list member,

Sehubungan  dg  diskusi  di  list  ini  tentang  pembatasan  Telnet di
MDaemon,  saya  sudah  teruskan  di  Forum Mdaemon, nah ini salah satu
jawaban yg menarik dari salah satu member, saya copykan :

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There   is   no   "telnet"   negotiation.   Terminal   emulation  (the
aforementioned  do's and don'ts) is a function of the daemon accepting
the  incoming  connection  at  the  protocol lever. What you're asking
about  is  connection-level  filtering based on client type and that's
impossible.  Opening  a  telnet  connection  to  port 25/110/143 looks
EXACTLY  like  a SMTP/POP/IMAP connection TCP connection-wise. Opening
telnet  instantiates  a  TCP connection excatly the same way your SMTP
server  or  Web  server  or  even  an  SSL server does. It's up to the
protocol  (SMTP,HTTP,POP)  to  negotiate  connection  terms and access
restrictions.  Telnet  as  in  a  telnet connection is just a raw data
stream.  There's  no  protocol  that  is  "telnet". That's why you can
telnet to SMTP to perform tests. I could sit with my telnet connection
on  your  MDaemon server and send valid SMTP commands and data all day
and you'd never be able to distinguish the difference between me and a
real  SMTP  server.  Authentication  is  a  protocol  function,  not a
connection   function.  Telnet  "client"  filtering  is  fundamentally
impossible from a connection/TCP standpoint.

For  filtering  hackers,  it's  a simple matter to write a Perl script
that  does  a tcp_open() and bingo - instant TCP connection. No hacker
is  going  to  check  for  a buffer overflow using Telnet. There's all
sorts  of specialized software for that, even for your run-of-the-mill
14-year-old  3l33T  5Kr1pT3r  (elite scripters - sorry it's late) that
don't know anything about programming.

Jason McCormick
Network/Systems Administrator
Lexi-Comp, Inc.
330-650-6506 x 239
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From: Syafril Hermansyah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "md-beta List Member"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:21:47 +0700
Subject: [md-beta] Telnet Restriction

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Dan sedikit tambahan dari Jason Froikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :

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Jason McCormick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) cried out on 2/28/01 11:12 PM:

> There is no "telnet" negotiation.  Terminal emulation (the
> aforementioned do's and don'ts) is a function of the daemon accepting the
> incoming connection at the protocol lever.  What you're asking about is
> connection-level filtering based on client type and that's impossible.

Telnet isn't a protocol.  It's an absence of high-level protocols, just a
straight text stream over standard networking protocols (Ethernet, PPP,
etc).

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-- 
Best regards,

- Syafril -

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