On 12/1/21 10:09 AM, zain.adriansyah via Mdaemon-L wrote:


---
Mohon tidak posting dengan top posting style di milis ini, selalu
gunakan bottom (interleaved) posting untuk memudahkan pembacaan.

https://blog.joelesler.net/2009/12/bottom-posting.html

The particular part to pay attention to is in RFC1855 --

"- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context. This will make
sure readers understand when they start to read your response.
Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the
postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a
response to a message before seeing the original. Giving context
helps everyone. But do not include the entire original!"

http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/on_top

The fundamental source of poor email style is the practice of quoting
the entire message you’re replying to. If that’s what you do, then it
doesn’t matter whether you put your response at the top or bottom. In
fact, if you’re going to quote the entire message, top-posting probably
is better. But both are poor form.

Writing an email is like writing an article. Only quote the relevant
parts, interspersing your new remarks between the quoted passages. Don’t
quote anything at all from the original message if you don’t have to.

Does it take more time to edit the portions of quoted text included in
your reply? Yes. So does spell-checking and proofreading. It also takes
time to shower and brush your teeth each day.

Di outlook 2013/2016 sudah ada fitur inline reply, tinggal diaktifkan.

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/30892/outlook-2013-disable-the-inline-reply-feature/

kalau masih pakai outlook kuno, maka ubah settingnya seperti ini

https://www.slipstick.com/outlook/email/to-use-internet-style-quoting/

Salin selected text yang akan di quote ulang, yang sesuai contex, ke atas
signature lalu hapus quote text yang ada dibawah baris "-----Original Message-----".
----

Ini juga email dari sender  (@nhsec.co.id) juga bouncing terus, sudah satu
minggu dan sudah saya cek di SMTP-IN tidak ada log dengan domain dan ip
tersebut.

Untuk error yang diterima original sen...@nhsec.com
<mailto:sen...@nhsec.com>  saat kirim mail ke @kisi-am.co.id


Dari error yang diberikan, mestinya ada lognya

Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.nhsec.co.id
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 4A76D10B5B80C
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; fuji....@nhsec.co.id
Arrival-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 15:01:40 +0700 (WIB)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; bima.pu...@kisi-am.co.id
Original-Recipient: rfc822;bima.pu...@kisi-am.co.id
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.0
Remote-MTA: dns; mail.kisi-am.co.id
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 501 5.7.0 Domain must resolve


Transaksi macam itu hanya akan tercatat di smtp-in log kalau di setting log mengaktifkan "SMTP probe".

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/mdaemon/21.5.0/log_options.html

[x] Log SMTP 'probes'

menu itu otomatis aktif (enable) di MDaemon 16.0 keatas, bawaan instalasi MDaemon (standard installation).

Apakah mail.kisi-am.co.id masih pakai MDaemon versi lama atau sengaja di non aktifkan?

Kalau memang menu "smtp probe" aktif, maka tidak ditemukan transaksinya di log karena belum tahu caranya dan tidak membaca cara melakukannya (https://mdaemonid.blogspot.com/2020/05/mencari-transaksi-mdaemon-dari-log.html)

Kirimkan saja smtp-in log file tanggal 2021-11-24 s.d 2021-11-30 ke supp...@dutaint.co.id agar bisa dibantu periksa.
Log file itu ada di folder \\mdaemon\logs.

Compress dulu semua filenya sebelum kirim, khususnya jika sizenya besar (lebih dari 10 MB).
Gunakan 7z compression kalau perlu, agar hasil compress nya maksimal.

https://www.wikihow.com/Highly-Compress-Files-with-7zip






--
syafril
--------
Syafril Hermansyah
MDaemon-L Moderators, running MDaemon 21.5.1 64 bit Beta A
Harap tidak cc: atau kirim ke private mail untuk masalah MDaemon.

The life so short, the craft so long to learn.
        --- Hippocrates


--
--[mdaemon-l]----------------------------------------------------------
Milis ini untuk Diskusi antar pengguna MDaemon Mail Server di Indonesia

Netiket: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette
Arsip: http://mdaemon-l.dutaint.com
Dokumentasi : http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id
Berlangganan: Kirim mail ke mdaemon-l-subscr...@dutaint.com
Henti Langgan: Kirim mail ke mdaemon-l-unsubscr...@dutaint.com
Versi terakhir: MDaemon 21.5.0, SecurityGateway 8.0.4


Kirim email ke