we are using apps in our XP, 7 and 8 task sequences with no issues so far, and using over 40 apps with lots of differing requirements and types of apps (adobe, java, Microsoft Office, you name it)
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Townsend, Robbie <[email protected]> wrote: > One has been filed and we are working with the product team via the R2 > TAP program. I just thought I’d raise this with the group, especially after > seeing Johan and Nackers say they just flat out don’t use apps in OSD > anymore. I can say we have been in production on 2012 since beta 2 of the > RTM builds (as well as the SP1 and now R2 betas) and have never had any > issues with applications in OSD with x86 WIM, but again, we have also never > used x64 WIM until recently. One more things to add is, I have created and > tried multiple x64 Windows 7 WIM’s and the result is the same. We don’t put > anything in our master image except .Net 4.0 (Full)**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Niall Brady > *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:08 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Application install via TS build and capture > does nothing**** > > ** ** > > you should file a bug on connect <http://connect.microsoft.com> for that > Robbie, good troubleshooting !**** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Townsend, Robbie <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > Related to the issue I mentioned below, when running bitsadmin /info > /job {JobID} /verbose during the install application steps in the TS, which > hangs and the application is never even downloaded to CCMCACHE, we see the > “Unknown working…” message shown below. Not sure if it is relevant, but > notice how the highlighted portion of the URL has a . in it. If I paste > this URL in my browser it returns an invalid character error as shown in > the screen shot. If I try the same URL but remove the . from it, I get a > Forbidden: Access Denied, which is kind of what I would expect. **** > > UNKNOWN WORKING > http://sccmserver.domain.local:80/SMS_MP/.sms_dcm?Id&DocumentId=ScopeId_11C24973-F069-4C09-94E5-501D4B5CD070/DeploymentType_29888344-4de3-417c-93c5-7368fe5eaf9b/15/PROPERTIES&Hash=D91066BF2EAE2D76933FE42DA80D77626D14579BB916651207910F142E05D38F&Compression=zlib > -> C:\WINDOWS\**** > > CCM\CIDownloader\Staging\{FF15FB44-2334-4F7F-BAC8-AA74DF188041}_2.zip**** > > **** > > Note: This issue only occurs if the TS is started from the software center > and the WIM set in the TS is x64. If you start it via PXE, all 19 > applications download and install fine. Further, if you start the TS from > the software center and an x86 WIM is what is set in the TS, all 19 > applications install fine. I want to emphasize that the issue is not > install related – the app’s data never comes down so an install is never > able to be attempted.**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Townsend, Robbie > *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:06 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: Application install via TS build and capture does nothing** > ** > > **** > > We are seeing similar behavior but only when using an x64 WIM in the TS. > If we set an x86 WIM all apps install fine. This is on 2012 R2 Beta, but we > had never tried x64 OS prior to R2, so I can’t say if this is new behavior. > What I am seeing the SMSTS log is an evaluation failure, which seems to > imply a pre-req/dependency is not being met, but none of the applications > have any of that set.**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Chris Nackers > *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:07 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [MDT-OSD] RE: Application install via TS build and capture > does nothing**** > > **** > > Completely agree with Johan on this one, I won’t use Applications during a > TS anymore either, not 100% reliable and consitant.**** > > **** > > Use Packages.**** > > **** > > *Chris Nackers***** > > *Microsoft MVP – Enterprise Client Management***** > > Email: [email protected]**** > > *Nackers Consulting Services, LLC***** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Johan Arwidmark > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:59 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [MDT-OSD] RE: Application install via TS build and capture > does nothing**** > > **** > > Use packages for TS deployments.**** > > **** > > I stopped using applications in the task sequence long time ago, just to > many bugs… still…**** > > **** > > / Johan**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Isaac Holmes > *Sent:* den 16 oktober 2013 20:43 > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [MDT-OSD] Application install via TS build and capture does > nothing**** > > **** > > Ok, I’m stumped. I’m sure it is likely something simple I am missing but > have yet to figure it out.**** > > **** > > We are finally standing up a new CM12 SP1 U3 environment to replace our > well-aged CM07 environment. **** > > **** > > Rather than migrating packages etc. over we are starting off fresh and > created all of the former packages just as Applications where we could. > Deploying applications to machines works fine but when I try and add them > to be installed via a TS none of the ones I have selected install. > Packages also work fine via the TS.**** > > **** > > I’ve checked the SMSTS.LOG but there seems to be no errors there, though I > will admit I may not know what I should be looking for. I’ve also tried > installing KB2522623 and rebooting before the Application install steps > with no change. **** > > **** > > Here is part of the SMSTS.log where one of the application groups is > supposed to be installing.**** > > **** > > <![LOG[**** > > Parsing step node: Microsoft Applications]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:459">**** > > <![LOG[Description: ]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" date="10-16-2013" > component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" file="tsxml.cpp:463"> > **** > > <![LOG[ContinueOnError: ]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" date="10-16-2013" > component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" file="tsxml.cpp:467"> > **** > > <![LOG[SuccessCodeList: 0]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" date="10-16-2013" > component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" file="tsxml.cpp:475"> > **** > > <![LOG[(__hrMethodRetVal == ((HRESULT)0L)) || (bFailIfMissing == false), > HRESULT=80070002 > (e:\NTS_SCCM_RELEASE\sms\common\inc\ccmxml.h,582)]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="0" thread="956" > file="ccmxml.h:582">**** > > <![LOG[No condition is associated with the > step.]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" date="10-16-2013" > component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" file="tsxml.cpp:670"> > **** > > <![LOG[Disable: ]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" date="10-16-2013" > component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" file="tsxml.cpp:484"> > **** > > <![LOG[Run in attribute: FullOS]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:492">**** > > <![LOG[Timeout: ]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" date="10-16-2013" > component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" file="tsxml.cpp:496"> > **** > > <![LOG[DefaultVarlist found]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:579">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp0Description]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp0DisplayName]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp0Name]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp1Description]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp1DisplayName]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp1Name]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp2Description]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp2DisplayName]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp2Name]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp3Description]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp3DisplayName]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp3Name]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp4Description]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp4DisplayName]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDApp4Name]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Variable name: OSDAppCount]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:620">**** > > <![LOG[Action command line: smsappinstall.exe > /app:ScopeId_8338EEE0-C597-4338-A1CA-B651A919501E/Application_a676b700-48ec-4322-b8ff-792949ae4aeb,ScopeId_8338EEE0-C597-4338-A1CA-B651A919501E/Application_a4df2dc7-42c6-4dac-864e-0ebc3c191436,ScopeId_8338EEE0-C597-4338-A1CA-B651A919501E/Application_c31b1d37-cf23-4924-ad14-288859f506b4,ScopeId_8338EEE0-C597-4338-A1CA-B651A919501E/Application_432ad98b-c493-4c23-8e52-9dd1f61d6e36,ScopeId_8338EEE0-C597-4338-A1CA-B651A919501E/Application_7407a640-3272-49fe-bc52-6178ccdc3e70 > /basevar: /continueOnError:True]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:522">**** > > <![LOG[Adding instruction at 112]LOG]!><time="21:39:38.950+240" > date="10-16-2013" component="TSManager" context="" type="1" thread="956" > file="tsxml.cpp:524">**** > > **** > > **** > > Isaac Holmes**** > > University of Notre Dame**** > > ** ** >
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