I would say packages is a very deterministic way of installing the apps
because generally what is shown in the task sequence is what you are
installing unless there are nested dependencies inside the package. The
application model becomes more of a black box because if what you are
installing has dependencies it gets a little more difficult to know what is
being installed just by looking at the task sequence. If you throw in
supersedence and requirement rules then things get more interesting to
understand.

 

I've always stayed away from the appmodel + OSD approach mainly because the
MCS guys we had on site for a larger customer did it that way. So ultimately
I don't know how well the application model works in practice in a OSD
scenario. The application model isn't bad for V1 but definitely not fully
baked for the real world.

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kent, Mark
Sent: April 15, 2014 9:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MDT-OSD] RE: Install Applications TS step - limitations?

 

Chalk it up to another feature in SCCM that doesn't work well.  Add
metering, asset intelligence, multicast.etc.

 

Mark Kent (MCP)

Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer

Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:07 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [MDT-OSD] RE: Install Applications TS step - limitations?

 

I've heard of several folks that do not use app model for OSD. I use
packages for OSD myself and apps for everything else.

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kent, Mark
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:16 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [MDT-OSD] RE: Install Applications TS step - limitations?

 

But if you want to take advantage of the app model, you would have to double
up your work then (make one Application and one Package) for each
application you need to install (via normal deployment and OSD).  That's a
lot of extra work for us, I was hoping to use the App model for as many
installs as possible.

 

Mark Kent (MCP)

Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer

Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Nackers
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:25 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [MDT-OSD] RE: Install Applications TS step - limitations?

 

I can't think of any specific limitation, I've done 50+ in the past with
packages. It could very well be related to the app-model specifically. Which
to be honest, has given me nothing but grief in OSD. I don't use the app
model anymore in OSD if I can help it, I create packages for everything
because I can guarantee it'll work 100% of the time, I can't do that with
the app model.

 

They did change around the logic, which is why you have only 9 per step and
MDT has to convert from the 2 digit list to the 3 digit list. So it's
possible there is something in there.  

 

Or I'm totally wrong on all accounts :) 

 

Chris Nackers

Microsoft MVP - Enterprise Client Management

Email:  <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]

Nackers Consulting Services, LLC

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kent, Mark
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:57 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [MDT-OSD] Install Applications TS step - limitations?

 

Is there a limitation on the number of apps that can be installed using this
TS step and the dynamic variables list?  I have a couple Roles in the MDT Db
for some labs that require large application installs (we are talking over
40 apps).  When trying to run this, the Install Applications step fails with
the same message:

 

"App policy for 'ApplicationNameHere' not received. Make sure the
application is marked for dynamic app install"

 

The Application is marked for dynamic app installs.  If I run the
application in another role with just a handful of apps, it works fine.  I
upgraded SCCM R2 to CU1  today as I thought there was a known issue with
this.  However after applying it and getting the agent updated I'm still
getting this error.  It just seems to arbitrarily pick one app to throw the
error on.  Anyone else come across this?

 

Mark Kent (MCP)

Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer

Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State

 

 

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