Hey, Those services are indeed impressive. Thanks a lot for the awesome suggestion! I'm going to try to add a handler for this service right away :)
Cheers, Jeroen De Dauw Forum: code.bn2vs.com Blog: blog.bn2vs.com Skype: rts.bn.vs ; Xfire: bn2vs Don't panic. Don't be evil. 70 72 6F 67 72 61 6D 6D 69 6E 67 20 34 20 6C 69 66 65! ________________________________ From: Joel Natividad <[email protected]> To: jeroen De Dauw <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:30:17 PM Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released Jeroen, Have you looked at geonames? They have an impressive list of free web services (http://www.geonames.org/export/ws-overview.html). I used them myself for a project 2 years back and its pretty good. Best, Joel On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:12 AM, jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, > >I see your point. Would you find the geocoding approach acceptible if an open >source service was available next to the ones of Google and Yahoo? I've been >seraching for such an altternate and open source service before the 0.2 >release, but simply was unable to find a decent working one. If you know one, >please let me know! > >I'm going to poke Yaron about your suggestion to add the DMS notation, if he >thinks it's a good idea, I'll implement it before 0.4. Of course, if someone >feels like doing that, feel free to do so, but give me a poke to avoid double >work. > > >Cheers, >Jeroen De Dauw > > >Forum: code.bn2vs.com >Blog: blog.bn2vs.com > >Skype: rts.bn.vs ; Xfire: bn2vs > >Don't panic. Don't be evil. >70 72 6F 67 72 61 6D 6D 69 6E 67 20 34 20 6C 69 66 65! > > > > > > ________________________________ From: Temlakos <[email protected]> >To: jeroen De Dauw <[email protected]> >Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:47:14 PM >Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released > >Jeroen: > >Geocoding means using a proprietary service, and getting a license that could >easily be revoked. I don't know how acquainted you are with American politics, >but let me tell you this: Google.com has been playing politics with their >search engine, their tools, everything. They have rigged their searches to >push politically conservative and religiously oriented sites to the bottom of >the rankings--which is why my wiki never bears mention in any search on >Google, but they bear plenty of good mention on other search engines. > >If they have demonstrated their willingness to play politics with their search >engine, what is to stop them from playing politics with any of their other >/proprietary/ APIs? A /proprietor/ reserves the right to refuse service to >anyone, for any reason or no reason. > >I don't want to be held at the mercy of any /proprietor/. That rather defeats, >even violates, the purpose of open-source. I want to be able to do all my maps >on OpenLayers, and stay away from Google, if I can. I'm not even sure that our >license (the GFDL) would even /allow/ us to do anything else. That aside, we >have a policy to stay a million kilometers away from anything that even hints >at a legal encumbrance. > >Besides: some of my sites are ancient, and might not even exist anymore. For >such sites, geocoding, even /open-source/ geocoding, would be flatly >impossible. > >Temlakos > >jeroen De Dauw wrote: >> Hey, >> >> >Does either Maps or Semantic Maps provide a means by which to display a >> map with a marker at a set of coordinates given in degrees, minutes, and >> seconds? >> No, they do not support that notation. It would not be that hard to >> implement, but no one has asked for it before, so I guess the demand is >> pretty low. >> Is simply geocoding the actual addresses with the build in #geocode parser >> function [0] not an option? That way you can avoid having to work with >> coordinates all together. >> >> [0] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps#Geocoding >> >> Cheers, >> Jeroen De Dauw >> Forum: code <http://code.bn2vs.com>.bn2vs.com <http://code.bn2vs.com> >> Blog: blog.bn2vs.com <http://blog.bn2vs.com> >> Skype: rts.bn.vs ; Xfire: bn2vs >> >> Don't panic. Don't be evil. >> 70 72 6F 67 72 61 6D 6D 69 6E 67 20 34 20 6C 69 66 65! >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Temlakos <[email protected]> >> *To:* jeroen De Dauw <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* [email protected]; >> [email protected] >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:18:19 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released >> >> Dear Jeroen: >> >> Does either Maps or Semantic Maps provide a means by which to display a >> map with a marker at a set of coordinates given in degrees, minutes, and >> seconds? All your examples for simple display of a single point use >> floating-point degree quantities. This would force me to hand-convert, >> and that seems rather pointless to me. >> >> What I would like to do is design a template for a settlement, or a >> landmark (e.g., mountain, hill, valley), that will include a map of the >> immediate region and automatically place a marker at the specified >> coordinates in the article on that settlement or landmark. >> >> A query formatted as a map with many points on it looks great. And it >> would be wonderful for an article on a country, because I could place >> markers for every city and/or landmark in that country. But when I write >> an article for a city or a mountain, I annotate coordinates in degrees, >> minutes, and seconds. Or must I get used to specifying them in floats? >> >> Temlakos >> >> jeroen De Dauw wrote: >> > Hey, >> > >> > First of all, let me introduce myself. >> > I'm Jeroen De Dauw, one of the GSoC students for Wikimedia foundation >> > this year. During the last 2 months I've been working on 2 new mapping >> > extensions for MediaWiki and Semantic MediaWiki >> > <http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki> [0] with Yaron >> > Koren <http://yaronkoren.com/> [1] as mentor. You can read more about >> > this at my blog <http://blog.bn2vs.com/tag/semantic-maps/> [2]. >> > >> > The first version of both extensions has just been released. These are >> > the extensions: >> > >> > Maps >> > Maps <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps> [3] is an >> > extension that provides the ability to display coordinate data, using >> > multiple mapping services, including Google Maps [4], OpenLayers [5] >> > and Yahoo Maps [6], and allows users to geocode addresses. >> > >> > Semantic Maps >> > Semantic Maps <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps> >> > [7] is an extension that adds semantic capabilities to the Maps >> > extension, and therefore provides the ability to add, view and edit >> > coordinate data stored through the Semantic MediaWiki extension, using >> > multiple mapping services. These include Google Maps, OpenLayers and >> > Yahoo Maps. Semantic Maps and Maps are based on Semantic Google Maps >> > and Semantic Layers, and are meant to replace these extensions. For >> > this extension to work, you need to have both Semantic MediaWiki and >> > Maps installed. >> > >> > You can download both extensions via their documentation pages. >> > Suggestions and feature requests are welcome. >> > >> > [0] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki >> > [1] http://yaronkoren.com/ >> > [2] http://blog.bn2vs.com/tag/semantic-maps/ >> > [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps >> > [4] http://code.google.com/apis/maps/ >> > [5] http://openlayers.org/ >> > [6] http://developer.yahoo.com/maps/ >> > [7] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps >> > > Cheers, >> > De Dauw '[RTS]BN+VS*' Jeroen >> > > Forum: code <http://code.bn2vs.com>.bn2vs.com <http://code.bn2vs.com> >> > Blog: blog.bn2vs.com <http://blog.bn2vs.com> >> > Xfire: bn2vs ; Skype: rts.bn.vs >> > >> > Don't panic. 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