Cross-posting.

-greg


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Gregory Varnum <[email protected]>
> Subject: New, lower traffic, announcements only email list for Wikimedia 
> developers
> Date: 30 June, 2012 1:23:11 AM EDT
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Following discussions with Wikimedia developers more on the "fringe" and not 
> as engaged in frequent IRC or mailing list conversations, the request for an 
> announcements only mailing list came up.  I wanted to let folks know that 
> this list has been created and is ready for membership:  
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-announce  -  
> [email protected]  There will also be a signup list for 
> this and other lists at Wikimania Hackathon.
> 
> Unlike this list, which allows for discussion, or the MediaWiki-announce 
> list, which focuses exclusively on MediaWiki release announcements, 
> wikitech-announce will be used for occasional announcements on both MediaWiki 
> and broader Wikimedia developer related news items.  This includes an 
> announcement when monthly tech or engineering reports are posted, important 
> news updates on git or developer related tools, and information on upcoming 
> sprints, events or other major developer collaborations.
> 
> Having presented this idea a few times, there are some common questions I 
> will get out of the way now.
> 
> Why not just send these out on MediaWiki-announce?  There was quick reaction 
> from several of these less-engaged developers that some really did want JUST 
> MediaWiki release info sent out on that list.  In other words, the audience 
> of that list did not like the idea.
> 
> Will this duplicate emails sent to wikitech-l?  Probably, but it is not 
> designed for folks already utilizing wikitech-l - it is designed for folks 
> who would like less email traffic and want announcements - not conversations.
> 
> Is this really going to save folks that many emails?  In June, the wikitech-l 
> list had 639 individual messages (so far).  It is unlikely that this list 
> would exceed 12 a month.  For reference, MediaWiki-announce has sent out 3 
> messages this month and mediawiki-l had 121 messages.  This list presents a 
> middle ground between the two extremes.
> 
> Do we not already have enough lists?  Yes, but as our developer community 
> grows, so too must our means of communicating.  Many individuals, myself 
> included, have been intentionally trying to engage developers generally less 
> present, but just as important to our community.  Such as corporate 
> developers with an interest in sharing extensions who can benefit from 
> announcements about git.  Similarly, some students would prefer to get basic 
> info that helps them stay on top of the latest developments.
> 
> Generally, if you find yourself having a concern about this list, it is 
> probably not the list for you to join.  However, if you find yourself excited 
> at the idea of less development chatter while remaining informed, this might 
> just be the list for you.
> 
> Thank you to Sumana and TheHelpfulOne for supporting this effort and to 
> Daniel Renfro for proposing this idea and getting the discussion started.
> 
> I have volunteered to moderate the list at its start, but will be interested 
> in recruiting others that are willing to help.  Anyone with an announcement 
> can submit one, and a moderator will approve messages which fit within the 
> list's scope.
> 
> Finally, like any new tool, I anticipate its usage will evolve over time - so 
> please do engage in discussion on any ideas you may have for its future.
> 
> Thank you!
> -greg aka varnent

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