On Tue Jan 27 2015 at 6:17:35 PM chris tharp <[email protected]> wrote:

> Chad -- why would Mediawiki be the wrong tool if someone wanted to exercise
> some form of access control? Considering the number of extensions that have
> created for different types of access control it seems to be a very popular
> desire. Just because someone desires access control doesn't mean that they
> don't want the wiki experience elsewhere in their website -- they just
> don't want it on every page.


There's lots of extensions. Doesn't mean they're all good ideas ;-) Wikis
are meant to be open and all pages in a namespace should be equal.
When they're not, that's what protection is for.


> (Implicitly Mediawiki developers agree with
> this philosophy since all Mediawiki Namespace pages on every wiki have
> access control).


Sure, per-namespace edit permissions make sense. Because not all
namespaces are equal. NS_MEDIAWIKI can damage the site so it's
restricted by default. I totally could respect an argument for a wiki
protected NS_TEMPLATE or NS_MODULE in the same manner.


> Strangely the only type of access control build into
> Mediawiki is a top-down centralized type of access control, which is
> strange when you think about it. Everyone agrees some type of access
> control needs to build into the software, but Mediawiki, out of the
> package, only allows a top-down centralized approach. Others just want more
> varied types of access control than the off-the-shelf model presented
> inside a standard Mediawiki.
>
>
Sure, access controls make sense for different actions or namespaces
(see above). I just think per-page ACLs are incompatible with the idea of
a wiki and there are other tools better suited for the job.

-Chad
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