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From: Sheral Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:10 AM
To: DIANE
Subject: Re: [MEDITECH-L] EDM-survey

 


I'd like to put you in touch with my friend, Sarah Snyder at Mercy Medical
Center, Roseburg Oregon.  541-677-2412 (you may want to look the hospital
main number up and ask for her.....in case I'm not remembering the number
correctly.  I no longer work there, but was instrumental in installing the
EDM system.  So, I'll try to answer some of your questions. 

Are you using the EDM module successfully?  Yes.  We did not implement
on-line physician charting, but we did turn on, then off (30 days later) the
medication ordering function, but kept using the AOM prescription functions.
They may have went back to these, but I've been gone a few years.

What size is your hospital?  137 beds.

How many ER patients do you see (average) per day? 160-180

Did you have many obstacles to overcome while implementing EDM?  Too many
too list!  But, I think that is true of any implementation.  If I had it to
do over again: 
More physician involvement from the beginning. 
More housewide communication about the project 
More workflow analysis of ALL ED processes (although we did a good job, I
know so much more know now about the impact of workflow, versus design,
versus system functionality, that EDM now seems like a piece of cake) 
Gap analysis of processes that would change "outside" of the ED, such as
admitting, nursing units, physicians outside the ED, medical records, IT
maintenance (with associated knowledge to help us maintain the system!, I
ended up doing it for 2 years post go live including the equipment...and
then moved on to consulting) 
Strong PHARMACY involvement from the beginning in reference to the changes
that need to be made in PHARMACY module to accommodate the EDM needs, i.e.
RXM, allergies, coded un-coded, interaction checking, string building for
use in the ED, etc.  (We did not have a motivated PHA representative, and we
were always told "don't worry about it, it is taken care of" or "do you
realize how much work you are asking me to do".  That got old right away,
but knowing nothing (at the time) about PHA.....who was I to challenge that?
Suffice it to say, the medication ordering and online documentation of the
administration of the meds was turned off, and we went back to paper for
that piece. 


Did the physicians come on board willingly or kicking and screaming?
Combination, but they were told by their ED physician director that they
needed to do this.  The younger ones were easier, as were the ex-military
folks, and towards the end, they all came around, and came to miss the
system if it went down.  We had one physician who decided to leave, went to
another hospital, who then announced that they were installing EDM too!  He
was not happy about that, but he did come to the realization that IT
technologies like EDM will soon be the norm rather than the exception.

Did you implement NUR before putting EDM in your critical care area?  No,
and again, if I had it to do over again, I would NEVER implement ED prior to
the nursing clinicals.  Many places do....but it brings its own world of
headaches.  Yes, it can be done, and knowing the pitfalls ahead of time
helps, but I think its easier if nursing is already up.

Comments about the system:  Well.....this implementation was the 7th in the
nation at the time, so there was no one to bounce things off of, nor was
Meditech very much help, as it was new to them too.  But, that being said, I
know the system has improved since then, but I'm sure there are things that
can be better (as with EVERY Meditech modules, even the legacy ones).
So...I have learned from this job, that PRE IMPLEMENTATION PLANNING is the
key.  We did very little "planning" other than following the Meditech
project plan (and some internal), but ALL the Meditech modules are
integrated so tightly, that it really is a housewide effort. 

So, here is the shameless sales pitch.  I currently work for IBM.  We have a
Meditech service line, with many successful full blown Meditech
implementations, as well as EDM only installs.  If you would like to
consider having our folks do an assessment and come up with suggestions or
recommendations to enhance your EDM system, just let me know.  I would hate
to see you "scrap" the system, as the monetary investment alone is enough to
be concerning. 

Please contact me any time.  If you get my voice mail, please leave a
message, and let me know what time zone you are in.

Sheral Graham
Senior Consultant
Healthlink, a Division of IBM
IBM Global Business Services
cell: 541-680-3239
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Hi All, 
Hope everyone is having a happy and healthy holiday season.
I have a few questions about EDM that I would like to present to the
Meditech world.  Seems after a year of implementing EDM in our hospital, the
ER staff/physicians have done nothing but complain. Now they are thinking of
removing it from the ER and going back to paper. (Sounds crazy I know).
Anyway I would like to know:

Are you using the EDM module successfully?

What size is your hospital?

How many ER patients do you see (average) per day?

Did you have many obstacles to overcome while implementing EDM?

Did the physicians come on board willingly or kicking and screaming?

Did you implement NUR before putting EDM in your critical care area?

Comments about the system:


I would like to hear from those who have any feedback good or bad about this
system.  Seems like such a waste to just throw out without really trying to
fix the "problems".  By the way, the ER can't really pinpoint to us what the
problems really are just vague issues. Something like too long to document
or Docs can't find what they need in the system. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 
Thanks in advance for your input.
Diane




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