ABSOLUTELY DO NOT TEACH YOUR NURSES NOT TO DO THEIR FIVE RIGHTS! The
computer does not replace critical thinking or manual checks - remember that
a HUMAN inputs the information, so another human needs to verify it before
trusting that just because it is entered into a computer it is correct. We
have had several errors related to people "turning off their brains" (and
obviously NOT following the 5 Rights procedure that we all learned in
nursing school). The human connection and detail orientation is still very
important, and the computer should NOT be the only check!

 

In response to the original question - we do not have a change in the
staffing ratios on a permanent basis, though there was a small and temporary
bit of a leeway on productivity/OT hours when units were initially brought
LIVE with eMAR/BMV. Very quickly resolved. We have 4 Med-Surg, 3 Tele, 2 ICU
and a CVICU LIVE between two facilities. 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Davis Daniel - Southern Hills
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 9:28 AM
To: Sharon LaDuke; Gay, Michael C.; Keri Heavin; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MEDITECH-L] nursing staff ratios after implementation

 

My understanding of the eMAR/BMV was that the computer was supposed to be
the double-check, not that the computer was the check and staff were not to
engage their clinical judgment in the process.  

 

Daniel Davis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sharon LaDuke
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 10:34 AM
To: Gay, Michael C.; Keri Heavin; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MEDITECH-L] nursing staff ratios after implementation

 

Interesting. If that's the case at other facilities as well, could it be
that one reason some nurses take longer with electronic BMV is that they
continue to do at least some part, if not all, of the 5 rights manually? Now
that I think of it, that's what I was doing. Is that wrong? Are we supposed
to teach nurses to stop that? Are there any worries about them "unlearning"
the manual checking process? Sharon

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Gay, Michael C.
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 6:35 AM
To: Keri Heavin; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MEDITECH-L] nursing staff ratios after implementation

 

Keri,

When a nurse is forced to do the 5 rights of medication administrations,
either by a another person or a automated system, it will take longer than
current practice. At our site, we did time studies in which we followed
nurses and had him/her do the 5 rights. We found that the automated
(Meditech BMV) process was quicker than the nurse actually doing the 5
rights.

 

Michael Gay, RN, BSN, MS 
Clinical Analyst 
Frederick Memorial Healthcare System 
(240) 566-3201 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keri Heavin
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MEDITECH-L] nursing staff ratios after implementation

We are currently having discussions about changing our staffing ratios since
we have implemented NUR and eMAR/BMV.  I am wondering if there are any sites
that faced this same issue after they implemented.  Our nurses continue to
express that Meditech documentation in combination with all of their other
nursing duties has made their load to heavy with their current ratio of
patients.   

 

Keri Heavin, BSN RN

Nursing IT Coordinator

Phelps County Regional Medical Center

Office: 573-458-7842

Pager: 573-428-6057

Fax:  573-458-8563

 


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