Greg KH a écrit :
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:27:04PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote:
Greg KH a écrit :
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:53:09PM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote:
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This was the Meego decision, without the community, to not be based
on a upstream distribution to solve this kind of issue. Several of
us have warned at that time that this will be a big wast of time.
The argument was severely rejected by claim that Meego will be
something incredible. It's now maybe the time to lower the
expectation and to go back to the reality: without a generic enough
build, Meego will never reach any audience like Ubuntu for example.
Since when was that _ever_ the goal of MeeGo?
http://meego.com/about
"MeeGo currently targets platforms such as netbooks/entry-level
desktops, [...]"
Heh, if you want to look a bit above that line, you forgot to quote:
- Performance optimizations and features which enable rich
computational and graphically oriented applications and
connected services development
Netbooks today support this processor. Heck, netbooks from 3 years ago
support it just fine as well. I wouldn't recommend anyone run MeeGo on
a netbook that doesn't, it's as simple as that.
You failed to understand that there exists recent and advanced CPU that
use other optimization set than the Intel SSSE3 specific one.
It comes down to what works well, and right now, the current build does
for the hardware it was designed for. If you rebuild it for older
platforms, it will not perform as well, and you are behind a huge curve
to try to fix it up to do so.
And still I fail to see why you are trying to compare MeeGo to Ubuntu.
If you like Ubuntu, it's there for you to use, no one is forcing you to
use MeeGo, right?
Yes I was a bit forced since Maemo is replaced by it. With Maemo dev
process I have no problem at all running my own applications on my
desktop machines. Now with Meego dev process I still don't see a way to
get my application running on my machines. How I will do development and
testing ? There nothing like scratchbox2 in the Meego way: a running
Meego image is alway needed. That's the problem.
If some nice Meego OBS specialist will be kind enough to help the
interested peoples to setup a generic OBS on a other non-ssse3
machine, this will show the reality to everyone without slowing down
your so busy severs.
It's not a server issue at all. You can do this on a sse3 machine just
fine.
Heck, you could do this today, in the openSUSE build service if you want
to. Hey look, someone already is, look at the Smeegol project there,
that sounds like what you want.
Did you have an URL ? I cannot find this project on Google nor in
Meego search.
It's somewhere on build.opensuse.org.
Call me stupid, but I still failed to find it on the build.opensuse.org
search and projects list.
Aside of that, I notice that Alistair Buxton is currently trying and
face some difficulties.
Yes, that are outside of the MeeGo issue, it is where he is trying to
put MeeGo on top of openSUSE-compatible pieces, like NetworkManager.
This is not my understanding of the situation. Please read the end of
his last mail.
Regards,
Jean-Christian
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