On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 09:47:33AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 12/15/2010 9:26 AM, Thomas B. Ruecker wrote: >> Now at least Nokia for the N900 provides a much newer kernel for MeeGo, >>> so those of us who own N900's are in good shape, but the conflict I'm >>> trying to point out is real... and there will be a point where, even if >>> you ignore the hard compliance topic of what applications can expect, >>> the core OS just expects newer kernel functionality. >> Yes, we've seen this happen with previous hardware where we are stuck >> with 2.6.22 and a kernel config that clashes with newer udev. >> That's the moment where we either find a way to patch in the needed >> feature or say 'tough luck, no cookie for us'. It's not how it should >> be, yes. Newer kernel would be lovely, but often it won't happen. > > it's hard. Some of the more trivial things are easy to backport, but > once you start hitting whole subsystems or > core infrastructure you're going down fast. > > To run MeeGo 1.3, you will need things like full 2.6.37 level CGROUPS [...] snip OK, let's just for a second pretend we get the kernel issue solved. The beagle-board to my knowledge boots pretty much every bleeding-edge kernel. Did it help them when they asked for help? No, they just got yet another rulebook thrown at them.
This is NOT encouraging community contributions on a hardware level. To translate this into blunt words it spells: "Do NOT come to MeeGo if you are not $BIGCORP with money to spend. GO AWAY WE DO NOT WANT YOU!" From my point of view that's just sad. > I would like there to be a place in MeeGo for projects like yours, but I > don't want that to turn into a gridlock on MeeGo as a whole in terms of > being able to use innovations from the open source ecosystem. And I think nobody would want to 'gridlock' MeeGo by a community project. We don't need, neither want to play premier league, but don't take away our ball and say we can't call it soccer. I'm going to shut up on this mailing list now as this is not really a 'dev' topic. Still I'm glad that it stirred a lot of discussion (also on IRC) and maybe raised awareness that there are other possible players than $BIGCORP's that would like to join in some sort of way and contribute to MeeGo. It's up to MeeGo to decide if they want to have a real community also on an hardware level in the future or if it's going to be like a Nokia manager aptly put it about Symbian at some point: the best community money can buy! My final 0,02€ on this Thomas _______________________________________________ MeeGo-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev
