Hi, Stop considering the regular user as a stupid guy/girl that needs to have everything reduced to only one button. Most of the users never had problem to understand and use file managers as soon as they are used to. (Otherwise, windows wouldn't have been used by so much users until today)
Stop trying to think in place of a pseudo average joe but instead try to create things that are useful for you and the normal users will follow. It is the current trend for distributions to say: we (as advanced users) wouldn't like this simplification, but we don't care, we target the big basis of stupid peoples, so let's doing something stupid enough for them to be able to understand it without education. This is the biggest failure of KDE4, they are more thinking about doing something not for them but for regular joe in order to have a lot of stupid peoples using it that they lose a lot of users that just want efficient an efficient desktop and not just an eye candy desktop. Another example is F-Spot, it is a false good idea, it was created with the spirit to be more simple to manage your photos (for regular joe) but normal people are bored by that kind of things that needs to have a "database" and to "import your photos" and that think in your place for the classification of the photos (ex.: by date, by location, because just having things classified by folder is not user friendly....). Users just want Gthumb! One last example of this is Social networks aggregators. Plenty of handset, desktop and devices manufacturers have created that kind of applications to aggregate the streams of all your social networks. For them, it was the killer feature of their products for normal users. But who use this? Almost no one! People just want to use each service(facebook, linkedin, flickr) by itself, in an easy way, and not to have one lonely obscure stupid program showing them all the information from these services as it want it without control. To come back at the subject of the need of a file browser, lets suppose that you had a trip in a foreign country with friends and that now you want to show them all that you have from the trip. Will you prefer to have one folder with all the videos, photos, pdf scan of documents or to open the photo viewer to show them the photos, then go to the video player to browse the videos then to the pdf viewer to browse the pdfs, then to go back in all those applications to export to an usb key or import these data? ++ Florent On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Randall Arnold <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>________________________________ >>From: Richard Dale <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Friday, July 1, 2011 3:30 PM >>Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition >> >>On Friday, July 01, 2011 04:33:45 PM Éric Seigne wrote: >>> Le 01/07/2011 16:11, Martyn Russell a écrit : >>> > When you connect a USB key you usually want to either copy data locally >>> > or use data from USB key. In the former, I personally would prefer the >>> > device to sync my data for me and in the later, use the data on the >>> > USB key from applications. >>> > >>> >> and an other question: imagine people have a tablet and want make a >>> >> backup ... (for example on an usb key) ... what is the solution ? >>> > >>> > You run your "backup" application, which requires a usb key or some >>> > removable storage device. Logically, I wouldn't think of a file >>> > manager as the place to start a backup, I would expect that in my list >>> > of applications somewhere. >>> >>> Okay, >>> >>> so meego don't need a file manager for tablet, thanks a lot, i don't >>> waste my time. >>Certainly forcing normal users to interact with a heirarchical file system >>like >>Linux via file managers has been a proven failure, although 'power users' like >>the people on this list have no trouble using file managers. But I don't think >>we should be designing Meego for people like ourselves. >> >>Plasma Active seems to have got the right idea to me. They are using the >>Nepomuk store to have a common way for applications to store their data in a >>non application specific way. Then they are using a metaphor of 'activities' >>such as 'my photo stuff' or 'my social network stuff' to interact with the >>environment as opposed to my '/home/myuser/Documents/something.mp3' which is >>pretty low level. The average user doesn't want to see those paths like >>'/home/myuser/Document', but they do want the activity of 'my music things' to >>just find their mp3's wherever they are, and only show them in a context in >>which they make sense. >> >>Recently the Meego project seems to have been trying to de-emphasize Tracker, >>which makes it harder for Tracker to be the glue between apps, like KDE >>Nepomuk is in Plasma Active, as a basis for enabling activity functionality. >>To me this seems a mistake. I recently watched a Steve Jobs video where he >>said the meaning of 'focus' was being able to say 'no', and not saying 'yes' >>all the time. In my opinion the Meego project needs to be able to focus and >>know when it makes sense to say no. That should mean focusing on what the user >>experience should be ('Activites'), and knowing when to say no to >>functionaltiy which is part of that focus, like 'File Managers' and >>'/home/myuser/Documents/something.mp3' being in the user's face. >> > > > I don't think accommodating average/new users vs power users needs to be > mutually exclusive or burdensome. Provide a contextual approach by default, > with a powerful traditional file manager under the hood. > > Randy > _______________________________________________ > MeeGo-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev > http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines _______________________________________________ MeeGo-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
