Hello Jeremiah,

On Aug 5, 2011, at 3:48, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Romain KUNTZ <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> On Aug 4, 2011, at 2:21, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
>> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Jussi Vänskä <[email protected]> 
>> > wrote:
>> > On 08/03/2011 06:01 PM, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
>> 
>> >> for tier 1 developers
>> >> - Qt API
>> >>
>> >> This excludes ECU to ECU communication. Tier 1's would likely never 
>> >> accept this.
>> >
>> > Nor will any legislator approve MeeGo based systems to be used in any sort 
>> > of safety critical or even safety aware systems. Crafting an API for 
>> > automotive control systems is not the issue here, as the software stack 
>> > won't get certificated for use in safety critical systems.
>> >
>> > Really? What gives you that impression? Ford uses SYNC from Microsoft, 
>> > that is on the road already. Do you feel MeeGo IVI is not intended to be a 
>> > commercial OS in a head unit? What is its niche then?
>> 
>> Ford SYNC is not about safety. I think you can forget about any safety 
>> critical-related things from MeeGo IVI. Getting information from the various 
>> bus is fine, but internode communication or talking to ECU won't certainly 
>> happen from the head-unit. I highly doubt that car manufacturers would allow 
>> this.
>> 
> My understanding is that in some specific instances the Head Unit will indeed 
> need to talk to the vehicle. I'm not pointing to safety critical systems here 
> however, but pointing out in a rather general way that the Qt API is likely 
> way to abstracted from the vehicle's controls to be enough to fulfill 
> requirements, including OEM and Tier 1 requirements. I worry that limiting 
> MeeGo IVI to only Qt APIs will likely make it not suitable for a production 
> Head Unit which makes the entire MeeGo IVI enterprise less viable. 
> 
> Why would people invest time and energy in something that wasn't going to be 
> a product?

Right, Qt APIs may only be suitable to a certain category of applications. But 
before focusing on implementation details, I believe we should first define 
exactly what categories of applications would be available on the head unit 
(Tier-1/OEM, certified developer, anybody's app?), what kind of data would be 
made available to these applications, and what kind of interactions with the 
vehicle would be possible from these applications. 

>From that we will certainly be able to better identify whether the current 
>security framework offered by Meego is suitable, as well as how the API could 
>be implemented. 

Regards,
Romain
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