Heath,

Be very interested.  Let me know how you go

Cheers

--- "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>i was talking to this guy who used to be a mechanic for nissan years ago
>and he used to work on the works stanza, he said he might be able to get the
>homologation papers for the voilet, so you can use upto a 2.2L in PRC type
>races?
>does any one want/need these papers?
>
>regards
>Heath
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "RUSSCB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2000 5:21
>Subject: Re: Competition body prep. (long)
>
>
>> I too would love to get hold of one of these comp manuals for the P510 if
>> they exist.  Let me know if the Stanza manual has any good info in it
>> please.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Russ
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "abrahamk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 7:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Competition body prep. (long)
>>
>>
>> > Andrew and others,
>> > I've just had a very informative chat with 'Feral' Errol Smith and
>> recommend
>> > you seek counsel there.
>> > Errol also buys and sells competition parts and accessories so is also
>> worth
>> > contacting if you are after some 'proper' comp. bits, i.e. not Hyundai
>> Excel
>> > body kits!
>> >
>> > To get started you should locate the factory comp. preparation manual. I
>> > didn't even know that they existed for Datsuns, Errol has a copy of the
>> > Stanza manual and homologation papers, I didn't ask about the P510
>stuff.
>> >
>> >  The Datsun comps. dept. went to great trouble to find out where the car
>> > needs strengthening, and importantly, where it doesn't  (to save
>weight),
>> > and how to improve the handling, traction, and power. They make this
>> > information available so that privateers, people like you and I, (nb.
>> > everybody stand up and salute, damn you) will win in a Datsun and bring
>> > glory to the Datsun name.
>> > This was a very effective form of advertising, at least in the good old
>> days
>> > where the best car could win without being handicapped vis. Mini Cooper,
>> > Phase3 GTHO Falcon, Sierra Cosworth RS500. Why did we choose a Datsun -
>> how
>> > much was the decision based on  reputation and how much of it was
>> > disinterested engineering inquiry?
>> >
>> > There have been improvements and refinements since these cars first took
>> to
>> > the forests and roads, and we also have to realise that factory comp.
>> > vehicles were only built to compete for one season, so enthusiasts
>should
>> > build their cars stronger and tougher.
>> >
>> > I am looking forward to getting a copy of the Stanza comp. manual and
>will
>> > tell you if it lives up to expectations.
>> > Regards,
>> > Nick.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 10:44 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Competition body prep. (long)
>> >
>> >
>> > > Nick, I reckon these are good questions. Sorry I cant help,
>> > > because I am after the same answers but for a street 1600!!!
>> > > Can anyone help us??!
>> > > TIA Andrew
>> > >
>> > > > List members, I have some questions regarding seam welding and
>general
>> > competition body-shell preparation.
>> > > > I have located a reasonably good Stanza shell and have an L20B ready
>> to
>> > go in. Before it does I would like to seam weld and strengthen the body
>> > shell to prepare it for the rigorous thrashing it is about to receive.
>> > > > I have had a look at the very good Ford Escort site at
>> > www.osella.com.au.
>> > > >
>> > > > 1. I would like to use an oxy-acetylene welder to do the seam
>> welding -
>> > I don't have access to a MIG. The application of heat is so much slower
>> with
>> > an oxy set than with an arc welder, will excessive annealing take
>place? -
>> I
>> > am specially concerned about front strut towers and chassis rails.
>> > > > In simpler language will my body shell be stiffer or softer after
>seam
>> > welding with an oxy set?
>> > > >
>> > > > 2. The general technique recommended by the Ford works rally
>> department
>> > in the 70's (see website above) was to seam weld 1/2 inch, then leave 1
>> 1/2
>> > inches, then weld 1/2 inch, etc.. Leaving gaps prevents cracks spreading
>> and
>> > I suppose the size of the gaps offsets any annealing or embrittlement.
>> > > Any comments or suggestions?
>> > > >
>> > > > 3. I have inspected a Datsun 1600 rally car and noticed a long plate
>> >  reaching from the bulkhead to the front crossmember) welded onto the
>> > outside of the driver's side chassis rail (i.e. inside the wheel well).
>> This
>> > plate was supposed to reinforce the steering box - I don't see how it
>does
>> > it,
>> > > it could be there for another reason, any ideas? An angle bracket
>inside
>> > the car mounted from the steering box to the body shell / chassis rail
>> would
>> > be better.
>> > > >
>> > > > 4. Should there be gusset plates from the bulkhead to the chassis
>> rails?
>> > Again, see the Ford Escort site for details. However, the Datsun is
>> designed
>> > differently in this area, the bulkhead slopes away to the rear of the
>car.
>> > > >
>> > > > 5. The front radius rod brackets take a fearsome hammering and could
>> > probably be pulled out bolts-and-all from the front crossmember. I've
>seen
>> > it happen on a (rusty) 200B. How can this area be reinforced?
>> > > >
>> > > > 6. Are there any known weak points in a live-axle Datsun?
>> > > >
>> > > > Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > > Nick
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

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