RE: advise on engines

[Terry & Heather]

Daniel,
As this question comes up fairly regularly, a while We put together a bit of
a list of the common modifications that are required to put a turbo engine
in a 510 Datto. If you buy one then it is more than likely that some of
these mods have already been done but this list is assuming you start from
scratch.

regards

Terry



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Hi, I've been surving the net in search of a sight on Datsun 1600's
when I came accross yours which I'd like to say is excellent.
Anyway I have been thinking about buying a 1600 for a while, one
reason is most of my friends have got Gemmies and i want to put
them back in their place. So i was thinking about dropping a
Nissan CA18-DET in, but before i do so i wanted to know how hard
and how many mods you have to make to the car in order to fit it
in, also how much (roughly) it will be to cost to have someone wire
up the computer etc. Any other tips you could give me would also
be appreciated to.
                          Thanks Daniel...



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Re-posted as requested on 17/5/2000
terry,
could you please dig up that costing breakdown bc I reckon there would be a few of us out there interested
thanks
andrew

Terry & Heather wrote:

I have gathered some information over a period of time that details what it costs to build a street legal 510 with one ofthe popular turbo engines. Let's say we have a bog stock straight bodied road regd. 510 and are looking at converting it with an FJ20DET. I picked the FJ simply because it is the only engine I have installed myself from go to whoa.

Note. Any Nissan Turbo would be a fairly similar outlay engineering wise, you would need to adjust the purchase price of the particular engine.

 Here is a run down if you and your mates do most of the work using some 2nd hand parts (wreckers prices, U-Pulls tend to be cheaper on some things) and buying some fairly mid range quality bits that this sort of conversion deserves and most engineers require for "that" important piece of paper.

FJ20DET non intercooled complete with standard computer & 5 speed box $2300 - $2600
Upgrade to standard factory intercooled $200 - $300
Fitting kit (exchange tailshaft & xmember) $700; add $200 for outright or DIY ~$200
N13 Pulsar alloy radiator 2nd hand $100 - $125, new $250 - $300

Front Brake Upgrade to solid e.g. 200B:
    2nd hand struts complete $100 - $200
    Lowered springs & GT gas inserts and wheel alignment $300 - $800 (> quality)
    Machine discs & new pads (standard) $100 
    Upgrade to 180B SSS Tokico or Nabco dual 3/4" master cylinder and Bendix booster $100 - $150
    
Optional Front Brake Upgrade to vented :
    (i.e. for NSW using Verada rotors & VL Commodore callipers, need 74 mm late 180B struts) $500

Exhaust:
    factory turbo exhaust flange & down pipe $50
    3" average quality to xmember & 2.5" tailpipe, cat convertor & turbo muffler $500 - $1000 (> quality)

Rear axle:
    R180 open differential & half shafts $200 e.g. C210 Skyline 3.9:1

Electrics:
    Relocate battery to boot in approved manner (fixed & vented box if standard type open vent battery used) with single cable to engine bay $130
    Miscellaneous relays and wiring, connectors etc. $200

Fuel System:
    Surge tank & HP Pump $100 - $250 (bit of a range here, Gazelle pump in tank is cheap & effective, 2nd hand HP Bosch (VL) & separate surge tank ~$100 & $120 respectively, complete combined unit ~$200) 
    LP pump, relay & HP fuel lines $75 - $100

Wheels & Tyres:
    4 x 2nd hand basic 5.5"x14" Skyline steel rims $50
    4 x 2nd hand 185/65 or 195/60 < 1/2 worn $100 - $250+  (quality imports are around $60 per tyre)

Engineering:
    Big range here and varies by State a lot, min is ~$500 to $1200+ (thieves), ballpark is ~$750

Sundry Items:
    Accelerator cable, remote brake bits, hoses, plugs, filters, oil etc. etc. ~$300

The cost for "red ($3775) + common green" ($2380) highlighted items: $6155
The cost for "blue ($6125) + common green" ($2380) highlighted items: $8505

What have I missed: $???

Extras: (not an exhaustive list, just some popular upgrades)
Mags & tyres $1300
Aftermarket ECU ~$1300 (Wolf 3D)
Lights, CD, Amp ~$1000
Seats & Interior ~$500+ (fairly basic seats)
Respray $1,200 - $5000+
Rear discs (R31) ~$300
Nolathane bushes  ~$300
Tinted glass 3M ~$250
LSD ~$1200
Dyno time: ~$60 /hr
Adjustable front end (castor rods & camber plates) ~$500

That 'll do for starters, I think any prospective 510 Turbo convertors will get a bit of an idea from this and you can see why the L series is still very popular and will more than likely always continue to be so and there's nothing wrong with that (IMHO).

regards
Terry

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