Errol,

Gapless ring sets is something that occasionally comes up on the Ozdat list.
These are something that I've not knowingly used in the past as I mainly use
Hastings CM's from the land of the good ole boys and I'm curious to learn a
bit about them.

Could you give us a brief run down on the pros and cons of the gapless type.
For a start how do you fit them. Are they like a normal ring but just have
zero gap? Are they suitable for a street engine or are they designed for use
in a competition engine?

tia

Terry (Of course the invitation is open to other listers who wish to
contribute.)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Errol Smith
Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2000 6:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: L20B and z22E?


Chris & Brad,
At that price it makes a grunter engine pretty affordable. Add $140 for a
good ductile iron gapless ring set, $100 for bearings, $70 for gaskets and
the cost of boring the block 3mm. Not bad at all, good cheap performance.
Now about that 66m stroke, 88mmm bore special..................
Cheers
Feral Errol
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From: Chris Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: L20B and z22E?
Date: Saturday, July 29, 2000 1:49

errol, I'll only buy those flower vases if I can see my reflection, so
start
polishing.  But thanks heaps for getting that info.  Farily cheap hey?!?!
I'll definately be interested in any other info you get a hold of.  chris


>From: "Brad HALLETT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: L20B and z22E?
>Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:52:49 +1000
>
>Errol and Chis
>I spoke with Import Advantage today, they have no 88mm in stock and only 2

>x
>87mm.  They put me on to Harding European at Rocklea Qld who could not do
>enough for me.  Price for kit (entire stroker kit VW 1600 etc part number
>211198088) is estimated around the $400 mark, they had none in stock but
>are
>going to contact their suppliers.  I will try and determine who their
>supplier is Errol in case you want to deal straight with them.
>
>If they can get them I will buy a set and forward the blurb.  I will also
>polish up the sleeves that come with the kit, weld in bases, and sell them
>to you as flower vases.  What else can I do with VW sleeves?
>
>Regards
>Brad
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Errol Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:01 PM
>Subject: Re: L20B and z22E?
>
>
> > Chris,
> > I am trying to source a supply in Melbourne for Mahle. Also Brad is
> > speaking to someone in Brisbane. There is no distributor in Melbourne
at
> > the moment so I am still looking.  Valve reliefs (flycuts) are usually
>only
> > needed with the larger lift cams ) 0.300" and above. Although this is a
> > relatively easy and cheap operation.
> > Cheers
> > Feral Errol
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Chris Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: L20B and z22E?
> > Date: Thursday, July 27, 2000 7:34
> >
> > errol, are they hard to get hold of in Melbourne?  Also do valve
reliefs
> > need to be cut into them?
> > cheers - chris
> >
> >
> > >From: "Errol Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: L20B and z22E?
> > >Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:14:30 +1000
> > >
> > >Terry,
> > >Yep! I used to get them from a company in S.A. who has since gone
bust.
> > The
> > >Mahle pistons are very bit as good as Cosworth IMHO. I have also used
>them
> > >in some Ford Kent and Escort Twin cam engines I have built with
>excellent
> > >results.
> > >Cheers
> > >Feral Errol
> > >
> > >----------
> > >From: Terry & Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: L20B and z22E?
> > >Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:09
> > >
> > >Brad,
> > >There were are a lot of hypo L series $$$$ engines built in Canberra
by
>a
> > >few well known local engineers in the Datto reign of terror in the
> > forests,
> > >one of the best worked (still did last contact) for a crowd called
>Beetle
> > >Exchange and used the spare parts dept for slugs. They were flat tops
>and
> > >there must have been a good reason for such a wide usage in
competition
> > >built engines. I don't know what vw these were out of but I'm sure
>someone
> > >on the list does.
> > >
> > >Errol? did they use vw slugs down your way?
> > >
> > >terry
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad HALLETT
> > >Sent: Monday, 24 July 2000 5:19 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: L20B and z22E?
> > >
> > >
> > >Heath
> > >Which VW are these slugs out of?  Also how heavy are they, and can you
>get
> > >them in 87mm as well?
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >Brad
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 4:16 AM
> > >Subject: Re: L20B and z22E?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Z22 out of Nissan navara's
> > > > run the Z22 crank 92mm stroke, Z22 rods and VW forged flat top
mahle
> > > > 88mm pistons, compression height of 35mm (standard L20b 38.1 or
>38.3mm)
> > >only
> > > > are around $300
> > > >
> > > > need open chamber heads
> > > >
> > > > i had 37cc chambers comp 14.1 : 1
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Chris Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, 23 July 2000 6:38
> > > > Subject: L20B and z22E?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have a few questions for you L20b'ers out there:
> > > > >
> > > > > -what are the z22e pistons out of (if i didn't make them up), and
>are
> > >they
> > > > > true flat tops?  What diamteter are they, and what height is the
>pin?
> > >I
> > > > > heard from someone/somewhere a few weeks ago that they can go
into
>a
> > >bored
> > > > > L20b block.  are they any good?
> > > > >
> > > > > -does anyone have a decent L20b block for sale in Melbourne,
> > >preferably
> > > > > unbored or slightly oversized (doesn't matter about the condition

>of
> > >the
> > > > > bore itself)
> > > > >
> > > > > -alternatively does anyone have an L20b engine that has had work
>done
> > >to
> > > > it
> > > > > already for sale
> > > > >
> > > > > -what other pistons (flat top or dome top) fit an oversized L20b
> > (bore
> > > > size
> > > > > undecided as of yet) that are redily available and not overly
> > >expensive?
> > > > >
> > > > > My aim it to build a good (powerful and relyable) L20b, without
> > >braking
> > > > the
> > > > > budget too much, that I can drive on my P's in Melbourne.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks heaps for any info in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > CHRIS 'I've already decided my 2 day old L16 doesn't have
ANYWHERE
> > >NEAR
> > > > > enough power' HALPIN
> > > > >
> >
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