Bryan,

I have attached an email that gives you a rough idea on the cost for a turbo
transplant in a 1600.

regards

Terry



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Subject: what engine in my 1600?


I have a problem and that is I don't know what engine to put into my 1600.
I have owned a 1600 for about a year and haven't had the cash to do anything
to my bog stock 1600, still with a L16 and 4-speed gearbox.  However, now I
have the funds!  So, which engine and who can help?Budget of around $3000
give or take.

a)Which EFI engine would be a wise replacement?
b)How much does a Z18 turbo cost to buy and fit?
c)What gearbox to fit and about what it will cost?
d)Who in W.A. can do the whole project for me?  Including chasing down the
engine, fitting and if needed any other mods.

In other words I need a performance workshop in Perth that I can simply go
to with my datto and say get me moving faster than a streetsweeper.
I have a small aim and that is to make the datto 0-100km in under 9 secs.

Also I have another query.  How much does a paint job cost? as my car is
mustard in colour and any other colour would do.  Anybody know who in W.A.
to recommend?

I know these are some pretty rough questions but I love the 1600 and know
absolutely nothing about cars except turbos are great to drive and a turbo
in a 1600 must be pretty sweet.
Thanks if you can help.
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Re-posted as requested on 17/5/2000
terry,
could you please dig up that costing breakdown bc I reckon there would be a few of us out there interested
thanks
andrew

Terry & Heather wrote:

I have gathered some information over a period of time that details what it costs to build a street legal 510 with one of the popular turbo engines. Let's say we have a bog stock straight bodied road regd. 510 and are looking at converting it with an FJ20DET. I picked the FJ simply because it is the only engine I have installed myself from go to whoa.

Note. Any Nissan Turbo would be a fairly similar outlay engineering wise, you would need to adjust the purchase price of the particular engine.

 Here is a run down if you and your mates do most of the work using some 2nd hand parts (wreckers prices, U-Pulls tend to be cheaper on some things) and buying some fairly mid range quality bits that this sort of conversion deserves and most engineers require for "that" important piece of paper.

FJ20DET non intercooled complete with standard computer & 5 speed box $2300 - $2600
Upgrade to standard factory intercooled $200 - $300
Fitting kit (exchange tailshaft & xmember) $700; add $200 for outright or DIY ~$200
N13 Pulsar alloy radiator 2nd hand $100 - $125, new $250 - $300

Front Brake Upgrade to solid e.g. 200B:
    2nd hand struts complete $100 - $200
   
Lowered springs & GT gas inserts and wheel alignment $300 - $800 (> quality)
    Machine discs & new pads (standard) $100 
    Upgrade to 180B SSS Tokico or Nabco dual 3/4" master cylinder and Bendix booster $100 - $150
    
Optional Front Brake Upgrade to vented :
   
(i.e. for NSW using Verada rotors & VL Commodore callipers, need 74 mm late 180B struts) $500

Exhaust:
    factory turbo exhaust flange & down pipe $50
    3" average quality to xmember & 2.5" tailpipe, cat convertor & turbo muffler $500 - $1000 (> quality)

Rear axle:
    R180 open differential & half shafts $200 e.g. C210 Skyline 3.9:1

Electrics:
    Relocate battery to boot in approved manner (fixed & vented box if standard type open vent battery used) with single cable to engine bay $130
    Miscellaneous relays and wiring, connectors etc. $200

Fuel System:
    Surge tank & HP Pump $100 - $250 (bit of a range here, Gazelle pump in tank is cheap & effective, 2nd hand HP Bosch (VL) & separate surge tank ~$100 & $120 respectively, complete combined unit ~$200
    LP pump, relay & HP fuel lines $75 - $100

Wheels & Tyres:
    4 x 2nd hand basic 5.5"x14" Skyline steel rims $50
    4 x 2nd hand 185/65 or 195/60 < 1/2 worn $100 - $250+  (quality imports are around $60 per tyre)

Engineering:
    Big range here and varies by State a lot, min is ~$500 to $1200+ (thieves), ballpark is ~$750

Sundry Items:
    Accelerator cable, remote brake bits, hoses, plugs, filters, oil etc. etc. ~$300

The cost for "red ($3775) + common green" ($2380) highlighted items: $6155
The cost for "blue ($6125) + common green" ($2380) highlighted items: $8505

What have I missed: $???

Extras: (not an exhaustive list, just some popular upgrades)
Mags & tyres $1300
Aftermarket ECU ~$1300 (Wolf 3D)
Lights, CD, Amp ~$1000
Seats & Interior ~$500+ (fairly basic seats)
Respray $1,200 - $5000+
Rear discs (R31) ~$300
Nolathane bushes  ~$300
Tinted glass 3M ~$250
LSD ~$1200
Dyno time: ~$60 /hr
Adjustable front end (castor rods & camber plates) ~$500

That 'll do for starters, I think any prospective 510 Turbo convertors will get a bit of an idea from this and you can see why the L series is still very popular and will more than likely always continue to be so and there's nothing wrong with that (IMHO).

regards
Terry


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