Terry,
Thanks a heap for that. I found it in the archives and your description is pretty
spot on. The wires as you described are the same.
Cheers
--- "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>Part: 1
><pre>Michael,
>I've attached the article I did for Zac in case you couldn't find it in
>the
>archives.
>
>There are a few disclaimers that go with it.
>I used to wire external Bosch alternators into 1600's in the 70's (sometimes
>2 of them using the a/c bracket mounts under the exhaust). I don't think
>we
>butchered the original look too much to fit the Bosch reg (alloy cover with
>yellow tape around it) but usually the original wires were spliced into
>an
>original Bosch reg harness plug from a HQ (small right angled arrangement).
>
>Hopefully the original 1600 wiring is intact and my article will make some
>sense to you as a Bosch external reg alternator was never fitted standard
>to
>a 1600 so you're working with a previous modification here which is always
>fun.
>
>regards
>Terry
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Ward
>Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 7:53
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Alternator Installation
>
>
>check the archives> Terry did an article on this!
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Foreshew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 8:34 PM
>Subject: Alternator Installation
>
>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Been a while but I have a question for you all.
>>
>>I have just picked up a shiny new alternator for my L18. It is a Bosch
>internally regulated unit and has been re-wired for 80amps. The previous
>alternator was a Bosch service unit (55 amp) but externally regulated.
>>
>>As a result I now have to wire in the new alternator and bypasss the
>regulator. Could anybody let me know what wires need to go where?
>>
>>Any help is appreciated.
>>
>>Cheers
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>From : "Zac Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>To : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Date : Sun, 5 Nov 2000 22:57:33 +1100
>
>Subject : Re: Bosch IR Alternator and Electric Fuel Pump Wiring!!
>
>
>
>
>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yep Terry, the alternator should be easy as pie to
>wire up!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the wiring info, I should be able to
>wire it up easily now. I am thinking of keeping the old loom in there and
>getting it running, then swapping the looms later. I jsut want to drive it
>again!!!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>zac</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE
>style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000
>2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV
> style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
> <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Terry</A>
> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:00
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Bosch IR Alternator and
> Electric Fuel Pump Wiring!!</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Zac,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>2mm
> is rated at ~8 amp continuous</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>4mm
> is 15 amp</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>6mm
> is around 25 amp</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>8mm
> is ~35 - 40 amp</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>10mm
> is 60-70 ish</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
> just can't lay my hands on the exact numbers for some of the ratings but I'm
> close enough</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Does
> the wiring instructions make sense from the earlier post, i.e. does your car
> have those colours at the old alternator and the regulator
> plug.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=470302511-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Terry</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE>
> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
> size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Zac
> Campbell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 4 November 2000 8:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Bosch IR Alternator
> and Electric Fuel Pump Wiring!!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks Terry, I picked up my slick new
> alternator today. A bluebird Bosch IR one. It's nice, pretty clean looks to
> be in top nick. $40.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also when you refer to 2mm and 4mm wire for the
> fuel pump, what amperages are these? 10 and 20?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks again!!</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>zac</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE
> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
>#000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV
> style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
> <A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Terry</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 04, 2000
> 3:33 PM</DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Bosch IR Alternator and
> Electric Fuel Pump Wiring!!</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Zac (& someone others wanted this, Michael &
> Paddy),</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Disconnect both battery terminals</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2><STRONG>Alternator wiring (Bosch IR)</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>White/Red (thick wire) > B+ </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>(I recommend if you have over 300w headlights & a mega amp
> etc that you run an extra 6 mm shielded wire from B+ to the Starter
> Solenoid</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial
> color=#0000ff size=2> as the stock 510 loom wire is rated at 35 amps and
> turns into a cigarette lighter with the high draw and charge that your
> Bosch alternator is capable of.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Yellow > Ind</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Black (-) > (E)arth (some Bosch don't have a terminal so just
> use the screw on the back that's for a suppressor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>White/Black (Field) > not used</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2><STRONG>Suppressor</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Connect the barrel to the Alternator body and the wire end to the
> B+ terminal. A suppressor is not required at the old external regulator
> end so discard if one is fitted.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2><STRONG>External Regulator (Hitachi or
> Lucas)</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Pull the connector plug at the regulator</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Make up a jumper with 2 male spades and bridge Yellow to
> White/Red in the plug on the loom side.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Connect battery and start your engine. Check that the alternator is
> charging with a multi-tester and load test it with the lights
> on.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2><STRONG>Fuel Pump</STRONG>.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Wire the relay thus:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Pin 30 - fused power from battery (4 mm)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Pin 85 - Earth (2 mm)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Pin 86 - Ignition (2 mm)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Pin 87 - Pump (+) (4 mm shielded)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Pump (-ve) to Earth (2 mm)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>* By shielded I mean run it inside that black stuff that's used on
> modern day cars that protects wires from insulation
> damage.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2>Terry</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=480132704-04112000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE>
> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
> size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Zac
> Campbell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 4 November 2000 2:33 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B>
> Wiring!!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm still working on this loom but I am
> having some trouble working out which wires I can remove to let me
> install a Blueturd internally regulated alternator.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I also need to know how to wire an electric
> fuel pump because mine isn't wired properly. I imagine it would be
> similar to the thermo fan wiring?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
>
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