Refer back to my original post, just because it takes two stroke oil doesn't mean it is a 2 stroke engine. Rotaries are definately 4 stroke, they have intake, compression, ignition and exhaust, no doubts about it.
----- Original Message ----- From: maldat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: Re: WHY SO QUIET? > It just seam strange thats that the only one I've seen that takes 2 stroke(I > must admnit I dont look too hard). > Fact is if a engine used no oil it would sezie,Plus if they used 1 drop per Rpm > they would emtpy the sump within 4 mins. > > Malcolm > > Zac Campbell wrote: > > > just because it took 2 stroke oil does not mean it is a 2 stroke. > > rotaries have oil injected into the combustion chamber as there is no other > > way to lubricate the seals. this is done by either a factory pre-mixing pump > > or mixed in with the fuel. > > which leads me to the fact that rotaries burn a small amount of oil, it is > > inherent. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: maldat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 9:55 PM > > Subject: Re: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > A guy I knew 20+ years back had a 2 stroke RX2. > > > It took 2 stoke M/B oil into a factory tank under the bonnet > > > > > > Malcolm > > > > > > Zac Campbell wrote: > > > > > > > They are not two stroke, they clearly have 4 strokes, but yea have some > > > > vague similarities to a 2 stroke. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: maldat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 5:05 PM > > > > Subject: Re: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > Real rotary engines are 2 stoke and take 2 stroke oil with petorl,Just > > > > like the > > > > > old RX2,Or am I showing my age or how to really make a rotary fly. > > > > > > > > > > they were still wet sump with 2 stroke oil,the 2 stroke went in a box > > > > under the > > > > > bonnet,RX3 took stock gas no oil. > > > > > > > > > > malcolm > > > > > > > > > > Zac Campbell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, metallurgy has come a long way and that has helped the rotary a > > > > LOT. > > > > > > They use two different tyres of metal in the engine in close contact > > > > thus it > > > > > > is important to warm them up properly before being driven. > > > > > > Since Rx7 came out the engines have been pretty good. A friend had > > one > > > > that > > > > > > had gone over 170000kms when he sold it (well looked after). We > > bumped > > > > into > > > > > > the new owner last weekend, he said he drove it hard for another > > year > > > > and > > > > > > then replaced the engine only because he wanted something faster! > > > > > > > > > > > > zac > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Craig Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:50 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > That old rotaries, I've seen plenty of rotas with over 100k on the > > > > speedo, > > > > > > > sure they're towards the end of their lives but still go every > > day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig (I used to work at rx7 heaven) > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:17 PM > > > > > > > Subject: RE: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Superbikes are all 4 strokes and I think the limit is 1000cc. It > > > > will be > > > > > > > > interesting to see how they compare against the new 4 stroke F1 > > bike > > > > > > > engines > > > > > > > > which also has a 1000cc limit. Someone's trying to get an Aussie > > > > > > > > (Melbourne?) V8 bike financed and running, I've heard it revs > > over > > > > 20K > > > > > > > rpms, > > > > > > > > could be a sleeper in the more fancied bike names. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only thing wrong with rotas as I see it is they have to be > > > > rebuilt > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > 30-40K's if used on the street, they just don't like running > > hard > > > > when > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > seals are cold but they do go well otherwise they wouldn't be so > > > > popular > > > > > > > > with the young revheads. The only rota i've driven recently was > > a > > > > Cosmo > > > > > > > 20B > > > > > > > > turbo automatic on a closed hillclimb as it's unreg - who says > > they > > > > aint > > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > torque, this sucka won the event and beat some very big noise > > and > > > > $$$ > > > > > > > aussie > > > > > > > > iron and sadly some Dattos/Nissans that fancied their chances > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Terry (as Iggy says check out the top 10 aussie street 1/4 > > milers - > > > > lots > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > rotas) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Zac > > > > Campbell > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 4:24 PM > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you will find that those engines are generally two > > strokes, > > > > or > > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > of capacity as large as 1.3litre. I haven't seen a road bike > > with > > > > 1300cc > > > > > > > > capacity and 16000rpm redline recently. Ready to be proven wrong > > > > though > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: Justin Friedrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Compare it to a 1.3L equivalent superbike piston engine!!, if > > > > that > > > > > > type > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > piston technology was allowed in a road car............. youd > > > > forget > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > rotary was. > > > > > > > > > 16000 RPM plus, no worries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: Sargent, Daniel (AU - Brisbane) > > > > > > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:05 AM > > > > > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know much about rotaries so I may be wrong but is'nt > > a > > > > 13b > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > example the equivalent of a 1.3L piston engine??? And if so > > then > > > > > > > please > > > > > > > > > > show me a 1.3L piston car keep up with 13b rotary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > Dan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: James Marmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 8:05 AM > > > > > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cos its a turbo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: McLEAN Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 8:50 AM > > > > > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well why does a 20B produce approx 400nm at about 4000rpm ? > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: James Marmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 7:24:am > > > > > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you know as well as i do that they have no torque when > > > > > > > > > > compared to a piston at the same revs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: Richardson, Thomas Morgwn - RICTM002 > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 10:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Power is a function of revs and torque, so the > > > > > > > > > > rotaries that are pulling huge horsepower (even at > > stratospheric > > > > > > revs) > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > certainly not lacking in torque > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: James Marmont > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 1:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they suck! sure theyre quick but who cares when you > > > > > > > > > > need to be deaf to be able to sit in one while its running > > > > > > > > > > all revs no torque > > > > > > > > > > my 2 cents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: Shane McManus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 2:08 PM > > > > > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rotaries are good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: damien cm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 15:57 > > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think some people are intimidated by the high RPM > > > > > > > > > > and brittle accelaration of the RE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "nat P." > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: WHY SO QUIET? > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:38:19 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I hate it as well! > > > > > > > > > > >Cheers nat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > > >Check out Yahoo! 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