Mark, OK, so it's a Bosch alternator, so I'm wondering what sort of Bosch alternator as the terminals have funny markings on the connectors? Has it got an internal regulator which is a small black bakelite fitting with 2 screws holding onto the back. A Bosch internal reg alternator off a Stanza or 180B/200B/Bluebird etc only has a B+ and a D+ terminal and an Earth which is just a screw fitting on the body. The B+ is a bolt with a 7/16" nut on the end of it that extends out from the back and the D+ is a male spade connector that's in a sort of a recess. The "capacitor thing" on the back is a radio suppressor and the body is bolted to the Earth screw and the lead end is connected to the B+ bolt.
The missing external reg plug behind the battery sounds to me like your 1600 may have had a Prince of Darkness Lucas alternator of some sort originally out of the factory (what's the month/year on your build plate?). I'll give you a rundown on how to wire a Bosch internal reg alternator that's found on a Datsun or Toyota donor on a 1600 just in case you've got the terminal markings quoted wrong in your post - if you haven't got them wrong then I'm stumped unless it's an External reg Bosch and I haven't seen one of those for a long time and can't remember what the terminals are marked on them. The big white wire from the solenoid connects to the B+ (Battery) terminal. Disconnect the Pos battery lead before you play with the wiring as if you short anything out you'll destroy the regulator. What you do to get your internal reg Bosch charging is make up a lead for the Indicator light, it doesn't have to be huge thickness (2mm or 7.5amp will do) and fit a female spade connector and attach it to the D+ terminal. Connect the other end to the small white/red trace wire that's near the battery. This nearly has to be the Indicator wire as if the plug isn't there it sounds like a PO has cut the plug clean off. There should/could be a bunch of other wires there that were originally connected to the external reg and some of these are live so they should be insulated. One of them is an Ignition feed, very handy to trigger an electric fuel pump relay or thematic fan but I digress. Recheck the wiring is exactly as I've written and then re-connect the Pos battery lead. When you've done that, turn on your ignition and check that the IND light glows. If the IND light doesn't glow then something is still wrong so don't start up, disconnect the Pos battery lead again and get back to us. If the IND light glows, then start her up and check the IND light goes out. If everything is going well then turn on your lights and increase the revs to 2000 rpm or so and check that the lights get slightly brighter and then dull a bit when you return to idle. You can check the voltage increases and decreases at the battery with engine revs with a multi-meter if you have one. Good luck with it, regards, Terry -----Original Message----- From: Mark Firman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 9:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: starter/alternator/wiring troubles Terry, The alternator is a bosch so you know. I have managed to get the engine running but the alternator still isn't connected up correctly. Is this white/red trace wire that goes to the dash light very thin? I have one behind the battery that is cut off too short to reach the alt and it doesn't have a connecter. If this could be it, then where on the alternator should i connect it up to? Sorry about all the questions, but if it isn't too much trouble, could you tell me if what i have connected up sounds correct? - D+ on the alternator is connected to the positive terminal on the starter solenoid. - A screw sticking out of the back of the alternator is connected to earth. At the moment there is nothing connected to D- on the alternator as there doesn't seem to be anywhere to connect anything to! There is a capacitor thing on the back of the alt too, i think something to do with reducing radio feedback or something?!? Thanks if you can look over what i've done and suggest anything, i would really appreciate it. Mark. --- "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark, > >What sort of alternator are you running - I only recall seeing D+ & D- >connections on Delco (GM) alternators but I guess there are others, don't >think I've seen a Hitachi with them though. > > The Indicator wire at the Alternator on an Aussie 1600 is Yellow and it >connects into a plug on the drivers side strut tower just behind the stock >battery position. The Indicator wire changes colour at that plug to >White/Red trace just to fool everyone. > >regards >Terry > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Firman >Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 9:32 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: starter/alternator/wiring troubles > > >Thanks for the reply Mark, > >but do you have any idea what colour/guage wire i should be looking for that >comes from the dash warning light? Also, where on the alternator does it >hook up to? I have three places, D+, D-, and the screw connected to the alt >housing. >If the wire from the screw in the back isn't meant to go to earth then where >should it go? > >Sorry about all the questions but i am lost! > >Thanks heaps! > >Mark. > >--- "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> >>hi, you should also have a wire from the bac of alt , going to the >>warning light on the dash, otherwise it wont charge. >>that wire you got going to earth, is the other end actually connected to >>the housing of the alt? >>if it goes to a isolated terminal, then i think that some trouble coyuld >be >>there. >> >>mark k >> >> >> >>> Also, i have a alternator with a built in regulator and my wiring diagram >>shows a seperate regulator. >>> At the moment i only have 2 wires connected to the alternator, >>> - one from D+ on the alternator to the positive terminal on the starter, >>> - and another from the screw in the back of the alternator to earth. >>> >>> i am just curious whether i should have something else connected and also >>that what i have connected so far is right?? >>> >>> Sorry for the very long post, but i am just really keen to get my car >back >>on the road :) >>> >>> Thanks to anyone who can help me out with my wiring troubles, >>> >>> Mark. >>> >>> _____________________________________________________________ >>> Get Your free Ozdat Email Account >>> ---> http://www.ozdat.com >>> >>> _____________________________________________________________ >>> Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag >>> >>> >> > >_____________________________________________________________ >Get Your free Ozdat Email Account >---> http://www.ozdat.com > >_____________________________________________________________ >Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with >[EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag > > _____________________________________________________________ Get Your free Ozdat Email Account ---> http://www.ozdat.com _____________________________________________________________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
