Heres a bit of a digression as well using physics - In this course I
am doing we were discussing the use of crack mechanics to form things
from metal, and apparently there was/is (?) a project going on at Ford
to try to form brake discs using cracking, so that you just take a
plate of metal the right thickness, give it a jolly good whack in all
the right places, and if all goes to plan a circular crack is formed
in the shape of a brake rotor and the job is done. I recon that would
be impressive to see.

Sunday, June 23, 2002, 1:28:35 PM, you wrote:

TR> Yes.  A frame full of helium would have more mass than a frame under 
TR> complete vacuum, therefore gravity would exert a larger force on the 
TR> helium cos of one of Newton's laws, Force = mass * acceleration (ie even 
TR> though helium is lighter than air, it's still heavier than nothing)  You 
TR> can't really use vacuum filled tyres though :)

TR> Aren't these digressions great?  Who'd have thought there was a use for 
TR> high school physics

TR> - Tom

TR> PS Maybe one of the other reasons why nitrogen is used in some forms of 
TR> motorsport is that it's inert, incase of a fire?

TR> mark krawczuk wrote:

>>hi, would u be better of with vacuum in the frame?
>>
>>  mark k
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "james wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 12:39 AM
>>Subject: RE: nitrogen filled tires
>>
>>
>>>Ive heard of bmx racers using helium? These days those guys are weight
>>>crazy and all, so yeah its like they want a lighter bike and all that. I
>>>even heard of a guy putting helium inside his frame (ie. inside the
>>>tubing). talk about kooky.
>>>
>>>-james
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of mark krawczuk
>>>Sent: Saturday, 22 June 2002 8:04 PM
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: nitrogen filled tires
>>>
>>>
>>>i believe that  some racing  pushbikes use nitrogen in the tyres?
>>>
>>>  mark k
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "James Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 1:32 PM
>>>Subject: RE: nitrogen filled tires
>>>
>>>
>>>>Actually I think they do that to maintain a constant tyre pressure 
>>>>since nitrogen is less likely to expand with heat increases, a common 
>>>>practice
>>>>
>>>in
>>>
>>>>some forms of motorsport.  If he really intended to make the tires 
>>>>lighter he should have uses helium.
>>>>
>>>>Jame Cox
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>No
>>>>>I have only ever seen a bloke fill his tyres with nitrogen to make 
>>>>>them lighter, similar to bridge construction (true story)
>>>>>
>>>>
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