I wa chatting to a mate whos a pilot some time ago and he said they 
pressureize some helicopters frames and have a gauge in it so the know if 
there is a crack in it as the pressure drops off
on the race engineer part I was chatting to a family friend the other night 
and his son is with jag in the development team and is coming out to the 
indy so hopefully I may com myself into a pit pass a meet a few people he 
knows in the pits LOL o they used to have a sysstem on the indy cars tyres 
to regulate the tyres pressure thogu hthey banned it a few years ago ?

>From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: nitrogen / Claude Rouelle
>Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:05:47 +1000
>
>Nick,
>
> > Andrew,
> > Sounds interesting!
> > Another, less important point is that Nitrogen is 'dry' - contains no 
>moisture.
>
>Yep exactly - no moisture means no changes with humidity etc.
>
> >
> > I saw an ad for those seminars, just a bit pricey eh? - unless you
> > work for Motec! Did you learn anything interesting?
> >
>
>Yeah US$750 is a lot of money. It is VERY interesting, but the
>theoretical basis of what he says can be found in various books. A
>lot is also to do with utilising data aquisition systems. Its the little
>stories etc, founded from his experience, which would be valuable
>to a race engineer, and in effect what you are paying for. There is
>no doubting that Claude is an EXTREMELY knowledgable and
>experienced engineer and its ashame there is only time for him to
>share a tiny bit (despite 3x 12 hour days!)
>
>Actually, a few weeks ago I had some one-on-one time with him
>over dinner :)
>Unfortunately, I think he thought I was a dickhead...  :(
>
> > Any clues on how to get involved as a race engineer besides...
> > a) Bluff and rat-cunning
> > b) Going O/S.
> >
>
>As with anything, it appears its who you know not what you know :(
>
>Andrew
>
> > >
> > > From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: RE: nitrogen filled tires
> > > Date: 24/06/2002 12:48:34
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Yep Errol is correct. I went to one of the racecar dynamics
> > > seminars with Claude Rouelle (ex head race engineer in
> > > F1?/CART/IRL etc etc) and he made the point that the use of
> > > nitrogen in dampers etc was for consistent operation, because
> > > there is no change in expansion/compression with temp.
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > > I think you will find its more to do with the rate of expansion per 
>degree
> > > > of temp increase. This means your tyres react more predictably with 
>temp
> > > > changes.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Feral Errol
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > http://www.datrats.com.au/
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Little
> > > > Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2002 6:59 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: nitrogen filled tires
> > > >
> > > >  and aircraft
> > > >
> > > > --- mark krawczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i
> > > > believe that  some racing  pushbikes use nitrogen
> > > > > in the tyres?
> > > > >
> > > > >   mark k
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "James Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 1:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: nitrogen filled tires
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Actually I think they do that to maintain a
> > > > > constant tyre pressure since
> > > > > > nitrogen is less likely to expand with heat
> > > > > increases, a common practice
> > > > > in
> > > > > > some forms of motorsport.  If he really intended
> > > > > to make the tires lighter
> > > > > > he should have uses helium.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jame Cox
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >No
> > > > > > >I have only ever seen a bloke fill his tyres with
> > > > > nitrogen to make them
> > > > > > >lighter, similar to bridge construction (true
> > > > > story)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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