That's an old engineering trick that's been around for ages.  Its a good
technique to determine if a critical structure has any cracks in it.  Once
the pressure decreases, the engineers will go looking for the cracks and
determine if they need fixing or not.

Cheers

Daniel Kroehn

----- Original Message -----
From: "tobias walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: nitrogen / Claude Rouelle


> I wa chatting to a mate whos a pilot some time ago and he said they
> pressureize some helicopters frames and have a gauge in it so the know if
> there is a crack in it as the pressure drops off
> on the race engineer part I was chatting to a family friend the other
night
> and his son is with jag in the development team and is coming out to the
> indy so hopefully I may com myself into a pit pass a meet a few people he
> knows in the pits LOL o they used to have a sysstem on the indy cars tyres
> to regulate the tyres pressure thogu hthey banned it a few years ago ?
>
> >From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: nitrogen / Claude Rouelle
> >Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:05:47 +1000
> >
> >Nick,
> >
> > > Andrew,
> > > Sounds interesting!
> > > Another, less important point is that Nitrogen is 'dry' - contains no
> >moisture.
> >
> >Yep exactly - no moisture means no changes with humidity etc.
> >
> > >
> > > I saw an ad for those seminars, just a bit pricey eh? - unless you
> > > work for Motec! Did you learn anything interesting?
> > >
> >
> >Yeah US$750 is a lot of money. It is VERY interesting, but the
> >theoretical basis of what he says can be found in various books. A
> >lot is also to do with utilising data aquisition systems. Its the little
> >stories etc, founded from his experience, which would be valuable
> >to a race engineer, and in effect what you are paying for. There is
> >no doubting that Claude is an EXTREMELY knowledgable and
> >experienced engineer and its ashame there is only time for him to
> >share a tiny bit (despite 3x 12 hour days!)
> >
> >Actually, a few weeks ago I had some one-on-one time with him
> >over dinner :)
> >Unfortunately, I think he thought I was a dickhead...  :(
> >
> > > Any clues on how to get involved as a race engineer besides...
> > > a) Bluff and rat-cunning
> > > b) Going O/S.
> > >
> >
> >As with anything, it appears its who you know not what you know :(
> >
> >Andrew
> >
> > > >
> > > > From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: RE: nitrogen filled tires
> > > > Date: 24/06/2002 12:48:34
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > Yep Errol is correct. I went to one of the racecar dynamics
> > > > seminars with Claude Rouelle (ex head race engineer in
> > > > F1?/CART/IRL etc etc) and he made the point that the use of
> > > > nitrogen in dampers etc was for consistent operation, because
> > > > there is no change in expansion/compression with temp.
> > > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > > > I think you will find its more to do with the rate of expansion
per
> >degree
> > > > > of temp increase. This means your tyres react more predictably
with
> >temp
> > > > > changes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Feral Errol
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > http://www.datrats.com.au/
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim
Little
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2002 6:59 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: nitrogen filled tires
> > > > >
> > > > >  and aircraft
> > > > >
> > > > > --- mark krawczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i
> > > > > believe that  some racing  pushbikes use nitrogen
> > > > > > in the tyres?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   mark k
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "James Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 1:32 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: nitrogen filled tires
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually I think they do that to maintain a
> > > > > > constant tyre pressure since
> > > > > > > nitrogen is less likely to expand with heat
> > > > > > increases, a common practice
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > some forms of motorsport.  If he really intended
> > > > > > to make the tires lighter
> > > > > > > he should have uses helium.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jame Cox
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >No
> > > > > > > >I have only ever seen a bloke fill his tyres with
> > > > > > nitrogen to make them
> > > > > > > >lighter, similar to bridge construction (true
> > > > > > story)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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