RE: Brake pads

[Terry Rudd]

Chris,   I've looked up the posts you referred to (and the replies, two of which was from me) and I would have answered the same as I did a couple of weeks ago to your original and follow-up questions. Also, I would back Stewart's judgement on most things Datto every time - I have a lot of respect for him and his opinions.   Did Stu actually see your car (drive it?) with the Sumis fitted. What didn't you like with the Sumis - fade, shudder, binding etc. If they were in good working order wouldn't fitting a better quality pad eg Ultimates have been an option?   In my opinion there is probably very little difference in braking performance between Girlocks and Sumis both with standard Bendix pads. A Girlock with Pagid pads will also perform much the same as Sumis with Bendix Ultimate pads. One thing that I noticed with my Girlocks and Pagid blue pads is that I warped stock 200B rotors surprisingly very easy - I got sick of it and happened to get offered a set of DBA Sports rotors and no more warping so far. I haven't got any Ultimate pads lying around here to check what the numbers are on the back of them for you. (I run Ultimates in my R31 rears)   I can't comment at the moment on how good Bosch Premiums are as I've never tried them - I've got a set in the shed to try with my R31's next time I'm due for a pad change, but ppl I've spoken to that have tried them think they're OK whatever that means (not bad?)   Street vs. Track days. Here's where the components that you chose for brakes gets tricky as most reasonably good street brakes don't last very long on a track, especially in summer time. Stock 1600 disc/drum brakes last about half way through the second lap at Wakefield, a good middle range brake setup like what I've got probably would last 4 may be 5 laps of serious track work. I've only ever done 3 laps with this setup and although pretty warm and smelly it was still working very strong at the end. One thing about Pagid pads on the street, especially in Canberra (cold) is that they howl when they're coming up to temperature - very off putting for the punters stopped at lights when a 30 yo Datto comes in behind them with the brakes squealing - I get some real strange looks and no one wants you to go anywhere near you. On the other side of the coin, tailgaters are your worst enemy, as you can out brake almost anything on the road and by a long way, so your rear end is precious and you're forever very conscious of what's up your rear - we get chicks driving Exels here that drive so close you cant even see their headlights - I just back off until they change lanes - we all pull up to the next set of lights together anyway.   This probably doesn't help your position much?   regards Terry     -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris King Sent: Monday, 26 August 2002 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Brake pads Terry i don't know if you remember but i asked the list about this a couple of weeks ago. I was highly recomended the caliper change by stuart willkins. I tried searching for transgold on the net and came up with nothing. I am really assuming the transgold pads are standard as the 200b calipers don't perform as well as the sumis with the bendix standard pads.   What higher performance pads should i put on? Bosch Premium pads Pagid Blue   I want somethng resembly performance oriantated but basically just a street car (occasional track days).   Thanks again   Chris King. --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/membersozdat@datascribe.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/membersozdat@datascribe.com.au/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------