really racking my brain here, as my father in-law also rebuilt one of the ralt BDA GP cars, two years ago, back to full race spec.....i think it was the ralt john bowe drove....no, the mk1 eski has the motor from john bowes car, this particular ralt was the one alian prost drove....i remember it has "le ignition" etc stickers everywhere on it :) ....anyway
it went on the dyno once it was finished, and i remember hearing around the 240hp@fly figure (calc'd from the rwhp) but the thing kept lighting the tyres on the dyno, so it would have been a bit more, the thing was too damn light :) ill find out for sure what RPM it was at, but 10,500 is ringing a bell....they took it out to 12,500 on the dyno tho....ill see if i can dig up the dyno sheet...the car john bowe used to drive would come back into the pits with 13+kRPM on the tell-tale :) something like 11,000 is the magic "thats enuff" figure.....oh yeah, this BDA head was stock, never been touch with the die grinder, cossie obviously got it right leaving the factory ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:13 AM Subject: RE: unsubscribe > Ben, > The 205 hp was factory stock. You were expected to tweak them yourself to > get the goods out of them. I dont think they ever made as much as the BDA > 1600's though. Best was around 230 I think. What rpm did the BDA make that > HP at? > > Cheers, > Feral Errol > <http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben C > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > > here is the thompson website....it isnt working for me at the moment, > hopefully just the ISP is down > > http://staff.tripleg.com.au/karen/rpt/ > > 205hp.....gee it was a bit off the BDA....240hp @ 10500 from memory > > there is a BDA powered mk1 eski that my future father in-law built, the > motor was out of the ralt that alain prost drove in the australian formula > pacific GP......its still in its race form (rebuilt of course) minus the F1 > cams....and thats still pulling over 200hp for a 1600 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 6:21 PM > Subject: RE: unsubscribe > > > > Dave, > > It is a twin cam 16 valve that fits on an l series bottom end, made by > > nissan competition department initially for 1600 cc formula pacific > engines > > (L14 bottom end with 66mm stroke and 87.8 mm bore)205 hp @ 10500rpm. > > The head was later adapted to the L20B as the FIA GROUP4 engine. > > Robert Thompson of Ballarat had one on a 510 2v litre sports sedan a few > > years back that was unbeatable. The purchaser has the engine in bits for > the > > last few years I believe.? > > > > Cheers, > > Feral Errol > > <http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Costello > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:56 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > > > > > what's an LZ14 head? > > > > Dave > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:01 PM > > Subject: RE: unsubscribe > > > > > > > The going rate is about 6500 OZZIE pesos (450,000Y)with cams and > manifolds > > > if you can find one. > > > I just found out there were two sunny's brought in for the southern > cross > > > fitted with LZ14's the same year as the 710 violets. I havent found out > > how > > > they went yet. > > > Cheers, > > > Feral Errol > > > <http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben C > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:26 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > whats a genuine LZ14 head worth errol??? > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:53 AM > > > Subject: RE: unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > I am currently doing up a late FIA head. It is costing a lot to do up > > but > > > it > > > > will be worth it. > > > > I had to sell the last FIA head I had due to extreme poverty. I will > try > > > to > > > > not repeat that mistake. > > > > A cost breakdown is: - $100 testing for porosity, cracks and hardness. > > > $300 > > > > inc freight for hardening the head back to T6 specs. 214N stainless > > > billet > > > > valves tuftrided tuliped and swirl polished are $528. Valve spring > pairs > > > > with matched rates $280 a set. New silchrome valve seats and new > bronze > > > > guides with 5 cut angles on the seats and the radius blended into the > > > > chambers and face machining back cylinder face and manifold face $650. > > > Flow > > > > matching of inlet ports and flow matching exhaust ports to ensure 80% > > flow > > > > of inlets $600. 8 new rocker arms (lightened and polished) $240 + time > > to > > > > modify. > > > > Machining cam tower for flow modifications and to fit cam spray bar > > $100. > > > > Billet "Clive Cams" camshaft $210. > > > > Titanium valve spring retainers $240. > > > > > > > > Total costs for the head will be approx $3200, plus manifold gasket > > > > manufacture ($300) and fabricated extractors $600 - $1000?). This is > on > > > top > > > > of the purchase price for the head in the first place. > > > > > > > > Any wonder you see the heads and inlet manifold only on Nissan Sport > > sites > > > > in the US for $3400 US. It costs money to do this stuff properly and > you > > > get > > > > what you pay for! An FIA is a bit like owning a works 510 SSS safari > car > > > vs > > > > the 510 deluxe granny car. Both are great in their own right, but one > is > > a > > > > lot more fun and appreciates greatly in value. > > > > > > > > Other heads may be better (OS GIKEN or LZ16 valvers) but this head was > > > > available and they arent :-) A mint L18 OS GIKEN head went back to > Japan > > a > > > > while back. It sold for Y 1,000,000 $14,450 AUD) with all manifolds, > > carbs > > > > and cams. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Feral Errol > > > > <http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
