Errol, Thanks heaps for that much appreciated:) Now I can get started with more mechanical matters. I'll let you know when they have the 504 racing again.
Andrew > Yeah, > I was treated to a look at the sweetest 16 I have seen in a long time. > I couldnt believe how straight the panels all are and how good a paint job > it is. > Its a credit to you Andrew. > Cheers, > Feral Errol > <http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > P.S. Your Dads a great fella. I want to see this Pug 504 on the track, I bet > it will be a beast. Your Dad also helped me out with a few contacts, My > thanks to him for that. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew > Greenbury > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: unsubscribe > > > Hey Errol, > > I hear you were around at my house yesterday dropping off some > big 48mm webers!! > > Andrew > > > They are crossflow with a single down-draft port that splits into two > > runners (one for each valve). > > The OS GIKEN heads are the same specs as the LZ but the carbs or injection > > (BMW 2002 BOSCH clone mechanical); are on the LHS of the engine bay and > > exhaust on the RHS. I think the LZ head and OS GIKEN heads were both > reverse > > engineered 4 valve BDA ford heads to suit the nissan L series blocks. The > > both use the same 40 degree included valve angles and stacked separate cam > > tray design of the BDA. The CA,SR and now QR twin cam are just evolutions > of > > these design with a shallower valve angle and integral camshaft supports. > > Makes you wonder when current F1 engine technology will be common place in > > passenger vehicles? > > Cheers, > > Feral Errol > > <http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Costello > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:44 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > > > > > ahhh gotcha > > thought it was a multi valve head, but I was trying to work out how a 4cyl > > head could have 14 valves hehe > > is this the same as the OS Ginken head someone posted photo's of a while? > > > > are they made of unobtainium or is it possible to find one floating > around? > > also if they were designed for the L series does that mean they're > > non-crossflow like the standard L heads, or more like the Z series cross > > flow design? > > > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:21 PM > > Subject: RE: unsubscribe > > > > > > > Dave, > > > It is a twin cam 16 valve that fits on an l series bottom end, made by > > > nissan competition department initially for 1600 cc formula pacific > > engines > > > (L14 bottom end with 66mm stroke and 87.8 mm bore)205 hp @ 10500rpm. > > > The head was later adapted to the L20B as the FIA GROUP4 engine. > > > Robert Thompson of Ballarat had one on a 510 2v litre sports sedan a few > > > years back that was unbeatable. The purchaser has the engine in bits for > > the > > > last few years I believe.? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Feral Errol > > > <http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Costello > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 5:56 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > what's an LZ14 head? > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:01 PM > > > Subject: RE: unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > The going rate is about 6500 OZZIE pesos (450,000Y)with cams and > > manifolds > > > > if you can find one. > > > > I just found out there were two sunny's brought in for the southern > > cross > > > > fitted with LZ14's the same year as the 710 violets. I havent found > out > > > how > > > > they went yet. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Feral Errol > > > > <http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben C > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:26 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > whats a genuine LZ14 head worth errol??? > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:53 AM > > > > Subject: RE: unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am currently doing up a late FIA head. It is costing a lot to do > up > > > but > > > > it > > > > > will be worth it. > > > > > I had to sell the last FIA head I had due to extreme poverty. I will > > try > > > > to > > > > > not repeat that mistake. > > > > > A cost breakdown is: - $100 testing for porosity, cracks and > hardness. > > > > $300 > > > > > inc freight for hardening the head back to T6 specs. 214N stainless > > > > billet > > > > > valves tuftrided tuliped and swirl polished are $528. Valve spring > > pairs > > > > > with matched rates $280 a set. New silchrome valve seats and new > > bronze > > > > > guides with 5 cut angles on the seats and the radius blended into > the > > > > > chambers and face machining back cylinder face and manifold face > $650. > > > > Flow > > > > > matching of inlet ports and flow matching exhaust ports to ensure > 80% > > > flow > > > > > of inlets $600. 8 new rocker arms (lightened and polished) $240 + > time > > > to > > > > > modify. > > > > > Machining cam tower for flow modifications and to fit cam spray bar > > > $100. > > > > > Billet "Clive Cams" camshaft $210. > > > > > Titanium valve spring retainers $240. > > > > > > > > > > Total costs for the head will be approx $3200, plus manifold gasket > > > > > manufacture ($300) and fabricated extractors $600 - $1000?). This is > > on > > > > top > > > > > of the purchase price for the head in the first place. > > > > > > > > > > Any wonder you see the heads and inlet manifold only on Nissan Sport > > > sites > > > > > in the US for $3400 US. It costs money to do this stuff properly and > > you > > > > get > > > > > what you pay for! An FIA is a bit like owning a works 510 SSS safari > > car > > > > vs > > > > > the 510 deluxe granny car. Both are great in their own right, but > one > > is > > > a > > > > > lot more fun and appreciates greatly in value. > > > > > > > > > > Other heads may be better (OS GIKEN or LZ16 valvers) but this head > was > > > > > available and they arent :-) A mint L18 OS GIKEN head went back to > > Japan > > > a > > > > > while back. It sold for Y 1,000,000 $14,450 AUD) with all manifolds, > > > carbs > > > > > and cams. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Feral Errol > > > > > <http://www.datrats.com.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
