Hmm *sigh*, yes I think there's something in that for all of us. *ahhh* ;)
I've resigned to the possibility of simply buying my own wideband o2 meter and going for a long drive up a hill with a laptop on the seat for datalogging. After my car was dyno tuned there were some curly bits that had to be road tuned anyway that the dyno wouldn't show up. As for your rant Errol. I Concur! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Errol Smith Sent: Friday, 3 September 2004 11:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: weber jets... I can disagree and will very strongly. I think a lot of time dyno operators produce a result you want. More often the decision to buy a dyno is seen as a licence to print money. The people that run it have no ability how to use the equipment at even 25% of its capacity for diagnostic purposes or do not care. The prime purpose seems to be to relieve you of large amounts of money for no gain or very small increases in performance. The bill for "dyno time" often represents about 5 - 8 times the actual amount of time the dyno was used. A lot of work that should be done else where is done "on the dyno" (parked of course) and you end up paying exorbitant rates for a costly work bench :-) As for results, "The result you want is often achieved by no more than a change of the air temp correction data or a change of wheel diameter" until a suitable "ego massaging" positive result is obtained, regardless of how driveable the machine is. There are a few who know how to use them and are conscientious. The prices for their work seem to be a lot less than the high flyers and often after 5 minutes they will take the car of the dyno and send it for further work so the dyno time is very small. Some of the self promoting experts charge Tattslotto number for results that could be achieved by a 3 year apprentice with a 20 year old vane tune up scope. As for tuning webers, if you have been doing for 30+ years you should be able to pick the setup to use on a car easil within a jet size or two, have it run and be driveable immediately. Later have it dyno'ed to fine tune mixtures with only a small amount of dyno time. When you see people getting a bill for 3 days of dyno time to set up an ECU, you have to wonder about the person using the gear. Did they get past first year apprentice engine tuning 101 :-0 Aaaaaahhh, that feels better. This is aimed at incompetent dyno tuners who rip off Datto owners where ever they may be. There are a lot of them who's bills should make them ashamed of claiming they are engine tuners. When you see a professional on good equipment, you realise how bad some dyno "experts" are. I am tired and going to bed. Night all, Feral Errol --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
