I think that's what "No, they should map around the down servers quickly."
means :).

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:07 PM, sdeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> On Nov 3, 6:09 pm, Dustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Nov 3, 5:02 pm, sdeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >   We are very excited to use a production cluster to host our
> > > memcached servers for a web service. However I am a little bit unclear
> > > as to the behavior in a real-life prod. environment where servers are
> > > frequently being rebooted or swapped out and replaced (or new ones
> > > added).
> >
> >   Such instability won't make for a very good environment of any kind.
> >
> > > 1) what happens when a server to which a particular key hashes is
> > > brought down, and restarted. Would the client (I am using the Java
> > > client btw) be able to figure out that a particular server is back up
> > > again transparently ?
> >
> >   Which java client?  Mine can, but it may very well be undesirable to
> > do that in your environment as it can introduce stale data.
>
> We use  "memcached-1.4.jar" from (http://bleu.west.spy.net/~dustin/
> projects/memcached/downloads.html<http://bleu.west.spy.net/%7Edustin/projects/memcached/downloads.html>
> )
> which one do you use ?. We can handle stale data, what is important to
> us is handling server restarts.
>
> >
> > > 2) In case one of the servers is brought down for a extended period,
> > > would the keys that would have normally hashed continue to incur a DB
> > > hit since the hashing function would always map to that machine for a
> > > particular key or is there a way to have them start mapping to one of
> > > the remaining server instances ?
> >
> >   No, they should map around the down servers quickly.
>
> How so ? So you mean if key "foo" was mapping to memcached "server A",
> and it goes down. The next time a client asks for "foo", it would hash
> first to "server A" which fails, so would the client then
> automatically remap to "Server B" ?
> It would be really helpful if you can please explain it a bit more.
>
>
>
> > > 3) Is there a way to make a live update to the list of servers that a
> > > client can use without restarting the client ?
> >
> >   Not in my client.  It'd be *possible*, but it's in no way
> > desirable.  You're better off using guice to inject a client when you
> > need it and have it get the client from an AtomicReference that can be
> > swapped out with a complete client when stuff changes.
>



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--Boris

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