Sorry, sent too quickly:

<< So you mean if key "foo" was mapping to memcached "server A",
<< and it goes down. The next time a client asks for "foo", it would hash
<< first to "server A" which fails, so would the client then
<< automatically remap to "Server B" ?

yes. This is essentially how memcache clients work.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Boris Partensky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I think that's what "No, they should map around the down servers quickly."
> means :).
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:07 PM, sdeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for your response.
>>
>> On Nov 3, 6:09 pm, Dustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Nov 3, 5:02 pm, sdeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >   We are very excited to use a production cluster to host our
>> > > memcached servers for a web service. However I am a little bit unclear
>> > > as to the behavior in a real-life prod. environment where servers are
>> > > frequently being rebooted or swapped out and replaced (or new ones
>> > > added).
>> >
>> >   Such instability won't make for a very good environment of any kind.
>> >
>> > > 1) what happens when a server to which a particular key hashes is
>> > > brought down, and restarted. Would the client (I am using the Java
>> > > client btw) be able to figure out that a particular server is back up
>> > > again transparently ?
>> >
>> >   Which java client?  Mine can, but it may very well be undesirable to
>> > do that in your environment as it can introduce stale data.
>>
>> We use  "memcached-1.4.jar" from (http://bleu.west.spy.net/~dustin/
>> projects/memcached/downloads.html<http://bleu.west.spy.net/%7Edustin/projects/memcached/downloads.html>
>> )
>> which one do you use ?. We can handle stale data, what is important to
>> us is handling server restarts.
>>
>> >
>> > > 2) In case one of the servers is brought down for a extended period,
>> > > would the keys that would have normally hashed continue to incur a DB
>> > > hit since the hashing function would always map to that machine for a
>> > > particular key or is there a way to have them start mapping to one of
>> > > the remaining server instances ?
>> >
>> >   No, they should map around the down servers quickly.
>>
>> How so ? So you mean if key "foo" was mapping to memcached "server A",
>> and it goes down. The next time a client asks for "foo", it would hash
>> first to "server A" which fails, so would the client then
>> automatically remap to "Server B" ?
>> It would be really helpful if you can please explain it a bit more.
>>
>>
>>
>> > > 3) Is there a way to make a live update to the list of servers that a
>> > > client can use without restarting the client ?
>> >
>> >   Not in my client.  It'd be *possible*, but it's in no way
>> > desirable.  You're better off using guice to inject a client when you
>> > need it and have it get the client from an AtomicReference that can be
>> > swapped out with a complete client when stuff changes.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --Boris
>



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