You shouldn't blame a country for trying to make sure it's assuring operations of a technology they funded to invent and help grow more than any other nation.
Especially if that country now sees an opportunity to hand over this responsibility to a transparent international organization Mehmet > On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:19, Sezen YEŞİL <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear all, > Internet governance is not an issue to be settled here, if it was so, there > would be no need for WSIS, WGIG, IGFs, etc. > I think that we all want an open and free Internet governed in a > multistakeholder environment (which needs to be developed more). > What I said was that US government dominance over ICANN was and is a fact > because of the contracts in place. > ICANN can use such criticisms to strengten its position against US goverment > while struggling for its independence (and even when they come from people > who were not able to participate in ICANN’s meetings which take place around > the world- OMG how much money would that be? And how fluent your English > needs to be J ) > > This is my last e-mail, I really do not see an issue to be flamed here. > > Dear Khaled, your article was really good, thank you for posting it. > Dear Fahd, thank you for sharing news here, please go on. > > All the best, > See you in IGF in Istanbul > Sezen > > > From: K Fattal, MLi Group Chairman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:18 AM > To: 'Fahd Batayneh'; Sezen YEŞİL > Cc: 'MENOG' > Subject: RE: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer > KeyInternetStewardshiptoGlobal Community > > Dear Fahd and Sezen, and colleagues > > Fahd, well explained and well done by explaining with and without your ICANN > had. Very professionally and intelligently done. > > Sezen, perhaps if you read this public post Is NTIA's Transition Decision > the Right Dose of Chemotherapy to Repair Trust in Multistakeholderism? It > may give you another take and perspective on the NTIA’s intent, challenges > facing ICANN, and the ramifications of all this by someone who has > participated in more than 40+ ICANN meetings, Sits on Advisory committees to > the ICANN presidents current and past for years, and attended and > participated directly in the WSIS 2001 – 2005 and all WGIG and IGFs. > > I will add to what Fahd said very well, this is not just about ICANN or US > government, it is about local citizens being empowered to step up and > champion the Needs and Aspirations of their own people and communities, > while putting their people and communities first and above their own self > interest - Not easy, but when they can, they will be undefeatable. And if > that means challenging ICANN to do better and more, so be it, this is what > Fadi is asking for. Food for thought. > > Regards > > Khaled > > Khaled Fattal | Group Chairman > The Multilingual Internet Group > Serving & Linking The Current & Next Billion+ Multilingual Internet Users > Web: http://MLiGrp.com > Email: [email protected] > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Fahd Batayneh > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 5:34 PM > To: Sezen YEŞİL > Cc: MENOG ([email protected]) > Subject: Re: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer > KeyInternetStewardshiptoGlobal Community > > I am not in disagreement with you Sezen, but we believe in two different > approaches. > > Anyways, as you said, this was the past. And as Winston Churchill said > “Learn from the past to see the future”. > > Fahd > > From: Sezen YEŞİL [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 3:43 PM > To: Fahd Batayneh > Cc: MENOG ([email protected]) > Subject: RE: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer > KeyInternetStewardshiptoGlobal Community > > Dear Fahd, > Thank you for explaining your observations, unfortunately I do not have > enough resources to make such observations. > But I have internet access to ICANN’s and IANA’s web pages; > - http://www.iana.org/help/cctld-delegation: The U.S. Department of > Commerce, as the Root Zone Administrator, is responsible for verifying that > processing procedures have been followed, and authorising any related changes > to the DNS root zone and root zone database. > > - http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements : US government is the > contractor. > > So no matter how many people from the community worked hard, the final word > always belongs the US government. I meant this fact by the term ‘fact’. > > But, “all these years” were past and the Community is about to change these. > Then, biggest applauses and many thanks go to these folks. > All the best > Sezen > > From: Fahd Batayneh [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 1:40 PM > To: Sezen YEŞİL > Cc: MENOG ([email protected]) > Subject: RE: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer Key > InternetStewardshiptoGlobal Community > > Hi Sezen, > > Thank you for your email. > > On the term of “Perception”, I used it to mean “observation” J. > > Nevertheless, removing my ICANN hat (which I have been wearing for almost 6 > months now) and wearing my old community hat ( which I wore for around 5 > years prior to joining ICANN), I can tell you that folks from our region have > barely been part of the ICANN process. While attending ICANN meetings, you > come across the same old faces from the region, and when participating in the > proceedings of working groups, you will find the same usual names, too. A > handful of folks from the region cannot initiate a change, but 10s or even > 100s of active members can. > > If we want to make this transition as satisfactory as possible, everyone has > to play their role. One hand cannot clap, but two hands can. > > Hope that helps. > > Fahd Batayneh > Speaking at a personal capacity > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Sezen YESIL > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 11:21 AM > To: MENOG ([email protected]) > Subject: Re: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer Key Internet > StewardshiptoGlobal Community > > Dear Fahd, > Thank you very much for your e-mail. > We all have to play our roles, that is undestandable. > But, after all these years’ performance (evidences are many, we all know > them), how can one refer to a “fact” as a “perception”, sorry but that is not > understandable at least to me. > Nevertheless, applauses go to NTIA for the announcement. > All the best, > sezen > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Fahd Batayneh > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:35 PM > To: MENOG ([email protected]) > Subject: [menog] [Summary] U.S. To Transfer Key Internet Stewardship toGlobal > Community > > (sorry for cross posting) > > Friends and Colleagues, > > As there has been lots of news circulated on the U.S. Transfer of Key > Internet Stewardship to Global Community, the following is a one-stop email > for what has been released so far: > > · NTIA Announcement -- > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/press-release/2014/ntia-announces-intent-transition-key-internet-domain-name-functions > > · ICANN Announcement -- > http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-14mar14-en.htm > > · Reaction of Internet Technical Leaders -- > http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-14mar14-en.htm > > · Reaction of ICANN’s BoD Chair (Video) -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCvtvVZyjLA&feature=youtu.be > > · Reaction of ICANN’s President and CEO (Video) -- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg_LD0C6ZiI&feature=youtu.be > > · FAQ Sheet on the Process -- > http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/iana/functions-transfer-faqs-14mar14-en.pdf > > · Public Consultation Process -- > http://www.icann.org/en/about/agreements/iana/functions-transfer-process-14mar14-en.pdf > > > As many have viewed ICANN and IANA to be US centric all these years, the time > has come to change this perception by jumping on-board and engaging in the > discussions. If we are to strengthen our regional Internet Governance > ecosystem and domain name industry, we have to all join the discussions. > > Thank you, > > Fahd Batayneh > ICANN > _______________________________________________ > Menog mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.menog.org/mailman/listinfo/menog
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