I'm not at home but I'll also reply later on today or tomorrow.

- Matt

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On Jun 28, 2009, at 13:42, Yehuda Katz <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm going to take the time this weekend to thoughtfully respond to  
> this thread. With regard to the book, I expected that people  
> received an email from Manning explaining that the book has been  
> switched to Rails 3 in Action, which we are currently working on.  
> Unfortunately, since Rails 3 was up in the air as we were working on  
> it, it was hard to get started without having to radically change  
> the book as we moved forward.
>
> The idea of the Rails 3 in Action book is to cater to folks who are  
> interested in configuration their framework and learning the power  
> of the internals. So it won't be a beginner book, but it should be  
> everyone's second Rails book. I hope that helped answer your question.
>
> -- Yehuda 
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Alistair Holt <[email protected] 
> > wrote:
>
> I bought the book too which does seem to have died a long time ago.
> Surely Manning should be refunding their customers for buying a book
> which it looks like is never going to be produced.
>
> On Jun 28, 5:39 pm, Julian Leviston <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yeah I'm pretty crapped off that the book that I paid for is
> > apparently not coming from manning any more... and manning don't  
> reply
> > to my emails.
> >
> > Julian.
> >
> > On 29/06/2009, at 2:24 AM, scottmotte wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'd would agree with Ezra that Merb is solid. I've built 3  
> production
> > > apps and working on a fourth.
> >
> > > However, even though Merb was solid, there was a lot of good stuff
> > > planned for Merb 1.1 back on March 2nd, 2009. (but these weren't
> > > promises just hopes)
> > > - ruby 1.9 compatibility
> > > - namespaced applications
> > > - active orm
> > > - run_later
> > > - thor improvements
> >
> > > There was the impression/promise that Merb apps would provide a
> > > migration path to Rails 3. That's probably my biggest concern  
> right
> > > now.
> >
> > > Additionally, I'm still in the camp that it was a mistake to go to
> > > Rails. It's been months of refactoring work for Yehuda - the  
> majority
> > > of which was already a core part of merb it seems to me. And I  
> know
> > > for a fact Yehuda has been very very busy. He deserves a medal for
> > > taking on that code. You've seen his blog posts. Holy cow it's a  
> ton
> > > of work refactoring rails. I think the Merb/Rails framework  
> would have
> > > been quite further along if half the effort in refactoring rails  
> was
> > > put towards Merb.
> >
> > > Having said all that, these are just my opinions. I haven't
> > > contributed any code, and these guys know better than a non- 
> committer
> > > like me. I've had the pleasure of meeting Matt, and I can say  
> that we
> > > are lucky as a community to have such smart and giving dudes -  
> Yehuda,
> > > Matt, Carl, Ezra and others.
> >
> > > On Jun 27, 11:07 pm, Nicholas Orr <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Only thing I'm keen for is the run_later fixes for using with
> > >> passenger...
> > >> Since I only have one app that needs run_later in production and
> > >> that is
> > >> only for updating something once a month. I simply spool up a  
> thin
> > >> instance
> > >> on another port and update. Shut it down after it is done and I'm
> > >> on my way.
> >
> > >> I've nearly finished a 2nd production merb app and everything is
> > >> great :)
> >
> > >> All the funky stuff coming in the router would be "nice to  
> have" -
> > >> it is not
> > >> like I need them or my app wont work...
> >
> > >> Merb right now works really well and is very flexible. I say  
> kudos
> > >> to the
> > >> merb dev team and thanks for a solid framework that lets me get  
> on
> > >> with what
> > >> I want to do ;)
> >
> > >> Nick
> >
> > >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Ezra Zygmuntowicz
> > >> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > >>> On Jun 27, 2009, at 8:34 PM, MyMerb wrote:
> >
> > >>>> Hi,
> >
> > >>>       I'd like to chime in and say that I am still happily
> > >>> building apps
> > >>> with merb,http://engineyard.com/soloisbuilt on merb. I don't  
> find
> > >>> that there is anything I'm missing or that there are any  
> features or
> > >>> major bugs stopping me from building apps with merb.
> >
> > >>>       If merb works for you then use it, it is very stable and
> > >>> runs well
> > >>> in
> > >>> production. If you need the newest shiniest features all the  
> time
> > >>> then
> > >>> rails is probably getting more love these days and may be a  
> better
> > >>> option for you.
> >
> > >>>       I'll let Yehuda and Matt chime in on the other questions
> > >>> specifically
> > >>> but I just wanted to say that merb is solid as is, it works  
> and runs
> > >>> very well in production. I think merb is kind of feature  
> complete
> > >>> and
> > >>> extensible enough that you can build whatever you want with it  
> as a
> > >>> solid foundation.
> >
> > >>> Cheers-
> > >>> Ezra (happy merb user)
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Yehuda Katz
> Developer | Engine Yard
> (ph) 718.877.1325
>
> >

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