About the book - yeah, that's cool, and I vaguely remember being sent this email (I think!) but my point is that there is nothing on their website about the switchover, they have practically zero communication about it, and I've emailed twice now to say what's going on and received zip response.
Compare this to the kind of service you get from the pragprog guys, and you get to see my point a little. Julian. On 29/06/2009, at 6:42 AM, Yehuda Katz wrote: > I'm going to take the time this weekend to thoughtfully respond to > this thread. With regard to the book, I expected that people > received an email from Manning explaining that the book has been > switched to Rails 3 in Action, which we are currently working on. > Unfortunately, since Rails 3 was up in the air as we were working on > it, it was hard to get started without having to radically change > the book as we moved forward. > > The idea of the Rails 3 in Action book is to cater to folks who are > interested in configuration their framework and learning the power > of the internals. So it won't be a beginner book, but it should be > everyone's second Rails book. I hope that helped answer your question. > > -- Yehuda > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Alistair Holt <[email protected] > > wrote: > > I bought the book too which does seem to have died a long time ago. > Surely Manning should be refunding their customers for buying a book > which it looks like is never going to be produced. > > On Jun 28, 5:39 pm, Julian Leviston <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah I'm pretty crapped off that the book that I paid for is > > apparently not coming from manning any more... and manning don't > reply > > to my emails. > > > > Julian. > > > > On 29/06/2009, at 2:24 AM, scottmotte wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd would agree with Ezra that Merb is solid. I've built 3 > production > > > apps and working on a fourth. > > > > > However, even though Merb was solid, there was a lot of good stuff > > > planned for Merb 1.1 back on March 2nd, 2009. (but these weren't > > > promises just hopes) > > > - ruby 1.9 compatibility > > > - namespaced applications > > > - active orm > > > - run_later > > > - thor improvements > > > > > There was the impression/promise that Merb apps would provide a > > > migration path to Rails 3. That's probably my biggest concern > right > > > now. > > > > > Additionally, I'm still in the camp that it was a mistake to go to > > > Rails. It's been months of refactoring work for Yehuda - the > majority > > > of which was already a core part of merb it seems to me. And I > know > > > for a fact Yehuda has been very very busy. He deserves a medal for > > > taking on that code. You've seen his blog posts. Holy cow it's a > ton > > > of work refactoring rails. I think the Merb/Rails framework > would have > > > been quite further along if half the effort in refactoring rails > was > > > put towards Merb. > > > > > Having said all that, these are just my opinions. I haven't > > > contributed any code, and these guys know better than a non- > committer > > > like me. I've had the pleasure of meeting Matt, and I can say > that we > > > are lucky as a community to have such smart and giving dudes - > Yehuda, > > > Matt, Carl, Ezra and others. > > > > > On Jun 27, 11:07 pm, Nicholas Orr <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Only thing I'm keen for is the run_later fixes for using with > > >> passenger... > > >> Since I only have one app that needs run_later in production and > > >> that is > > >> only for updating something once a month. I simply spool up a > thin > > >> instance > > >> on another port and update. Shut it down after it is done and I'm > > >> on my way. > > > > >> I've nearly finished a 2nd production merb app and everything is > > >> great :) > > > > >> All the funky stuff coming in the router would be "nice to > have" - > > >> it is not > > >> like I need them or my app wont work... > > > > >> Merb right now works really well and is very flexible. I say > kudos > > >> to the > > >> merb dev team and thanks for a solid framework that lets me get > on > > >> with what > > >> I want to do ;) > > > > >> Nick > > > > >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Ezra Zygmuntowicz > > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > >>> On Jun 27, 2009, at 8:34 PM, MyMerb wrote: > > > > >>>> Hi, > > > > >>> I'd like to chime in and say that I am still happily > > >>> building apps > > >>> with merb,http://engineyard.com/soloisbuilt on merb. I don't > find > > >>> that there is anything I'm missing or that there are any > features or > > >>> major bugs stopping me from building apps with merb. > > > > >>> If merb works for you then use it, it is very stable and > > >>> runs well > > >>> in > > >>> production. If you need the newest shiniest features all the > time > > >>> then > > >>> rails is probably getting more love these days and may be a > better > > >>> option for you. > > > > >>> I'll let Yehuda and Matt chime in on the other questions > > >>> specifically > > >>> but I just wanted to say that merb is solid as is, it works > and runs > > >>> very well in production. I think merb is kind of feature > complete > > >>> and > > >>> extensible enough that you can build whatever you want with it > as a > > >>> solid foundation. > > > > >>> Cheers- > > >>> Ezra (happy merb user) > > > > > > -- > Yehuda Katz > Developer | Engine Yard > (ph) 718.877.1325 > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "merb" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/merb?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
