Hi,

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Roy Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
> Personally I've switched to Ramaze for an easy to understand, light weight
> framework.  I much prefer having to specify what I want versus discover the
> magic recipes necessary to disable what I don't want.
>
> On Jun 3, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Tony Mann wrote:
>
> A thought, based on the "we gave up on our Rails 3 port" postings:
>
> Rails3 derived some benefits from having merb team work with them, but
> ultimately Rails 3 does not appeal to merb developers.
>
> So to me, the integration of merb into Rails 3 was ultimately failure, since
> the developer community was not well-served by it. This gives us three
> choices:
>
> Make Rails 3 more appealing for merb developers. I see no path for this.
> Get merb back up and running. I don't see enough community support for this,

I'd love to see numbers on merb apps in production. Merb was growing
steadily until the core developers had that "call for action" to work
on a messed Rails. That was a breaking point in Merb timeline and
teared its community apart. I still find Merb a smart project and
pretty interesting framework. Because of its value we can't say "its
dead". It isn't. Nicos is working on it, digging its source and
working on interesting future solutions.

It would be interesting to have a Merb::Conf (conference) to revamp
its image as a working and smart ruby framework.

> since the rug was pulled out from under it. People incorrectly see Rails 3
> as having "solved" the problems merb originally solved.
> Take advantage of Sinatra's momentum. Put our energy into a lightweight
> framework on top of it. Padrino comes to mind.

Sinatra is interesting for its pure simplicity. I'm using it as a
read-only "model" (API) for a Merb app.

What makes you want to redirect efforts in developing Merb to Padrino
? The community ? For now, I'll stick to Merb.

I will try to contact Ezra and Wycats and other commiters like SnuSnu
to ask them how they see Merb right now, and how they see Merb related
to other Ruby frameworks technically.

best regards,
@pedro_mg

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