>
> What makes you want to redirect efforts in developing Merb to Padrino
> ? The community ? For now, I'll stick to Merb.


I was just pondering whether we could leverage Sinatra's momentum. I imagine
that Padrino needs help, and Sinatra provides a great foundation. Maybe we
could take our learnings from Merb and use them to make something like
Padrino be a pack leader, as a genuine alternative to Rails.

..tony..

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:55 PM, pedro mg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Roy Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Personally I've switched to Ramaze for an easy to understand, light
> weight
> > framework.  I much prefer having to specify what I want versus discover
> the
> > magic recipes necessary to disable what I don't want.
> >
> > On Jun 3, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Tony Mann wrote:
> >
> > A thought, based on the "we gave up on our Rails 3 port" postings:
> >
> > Rails3 derived some benefits from having merb team work with them, but
> > ultimately Rails 3 does not appeal to merb developers.
> >
> > So to me, the integration of merb into Rails 3 was ultimately failure,
> since
> > the developer community was not well-served by it. This gives us three
> > choices:
> >
> > Make Rails 3 more appealing for merb developers. I see no path for this.
> > Get merb back up and running. I don't see enough community support for
> this,
>
> I'd love to see numbers on merb apps in production. Merb was growing
> steadily until the core developers had that "call for action" to work
> on a messed Rails. That was a breaking point in Merb timeline and
> teared its community apart. I still find Merb a smart project and
> pretty interesting framework. Because of its value we can't say "its
> dead". It isn't. Nicos is working on it, digging its source and
> working on interesting future solutions.
>
> It would be interesting to have a Merb::Conf (conference) to revamp
> its image as a working and smart ruby framework.
>
> > since the rug was pulled out from under it. People incorrectly see Rails
> 3
> > as having "solved" the problems merb originally solved.
> > Take advantage of Sinatra's momentum. Put our energy into a lightweight
> > framework on top of it. Padrino comes to mind.
>
> Sinatra is interesting for its pure simplicity. I'm using it as a
> read-only "model" (API) for a Merb app.
>
> What makes you want to redirect efforts in developing Merb to Padrino
> ? The community ? For now, I'll stick to Merb.
>
> I will try to contact Ezra and Wycats and other commiters like SnuSnu
> to ask them how they see Merb right now, and how they see Merb related
> to other Ruby frameworks technically.
>
> best regards,
> @pedro_mg
>
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