the biggest problem with nissens is not the quality of their product, but that they are difficult to deal with as a company. they change pricing often and somewhat capriciously and have very much an "our way or the highway" attitude. while nissens has been steadily raising prices, behr has been keeping their prices in line and even dropping some of them. as a consequence, nissens has been losing market share among my customers to behr and to alternative aftermarket companies such as valeo.
it's a high happiness product though. i don't think anyone has had any complaints about them at all until kleb. then again, i have customers write to me every day about how they get their parts in one or two business days, while it somehow takes kleb six weeks to get them. but again, if you want a behr, then get a behr. i'm very much a creature of habit so i tend to gravitate towards the same brands: behr, bilstein, stribel, eberspacher, lemforder, sachs, phoenix, beru, graf, akebono, et al. i'm very comfortable with the european, north american or japanese made products of these companies (although some of the stuff from china has been dissapointing despite claims that they are "identical" to the products formerly made in germany". i have no bad feelings about, say, a hepu or a geuine water pump, but will always use a graf. i don't dislike bosch plug wires, but i will always choose a beru or, to save money, karlyns made with beru or bremi components. i will always prefer ate slotted rotors for my front brakes, but i think plane jane zimmerman or balo discs are pretty good too (in fact, italian made ate or brembo seem to be slightly less troublesome than the german brands, although i'm avoiding brembo entirely now as nearly all of their aftermarket rotor production is now chinese). i will always choose akebono pads for the front, but can happily recomment textar/pagid to anyone. (and i will use chinese crap for the most part on the rears, but can see why someone else wouldn't). i will generally prefer brand new ate brake calipers over rebuilts, but i can see why someone would want to spend $60 on rebuilts instead of $200 on new ones. so if you don't like nissens, buy a behr. i'll generally buy a behr myself, but still am confident that nissens is a very high quality product. i only use mobil1 and brad penn oil, but if you want to use havoline or valvoline, i'm not going to say you are a bad person using a bad product. i use a ceramic "steel" to keep the edge on my knives, but you can use a steel one and get even better results than i do. is there something here i'm missing about what kleb and luther are trying to say? On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Tom Hargrave <tharg...@hiwaay.net> wrote: > True, and Gary states that it's not needed. > > I've put Nissens in a lot of Mercedes and they are good parts. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/ > 256-656-1924 <http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/%0A256-656-1924> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Luther > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:29 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nissens radiators not as good as Behr > > If you read Kaleb's email, he said the Nissens did NOT have the metal > reinforced neck that the Behr does. > > Luther > > Gary Hurst wrote: > > Nissens not as expensive either. Also, neck much stronger than on > > behr so reinorcement not needed > > > > On 5/17/09, Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> wrote: > > > >> Got my Nissens from Rusty, spent today trying to install it in my E300. > >> Not quite an exact fit, had to do some okie engineering on it. For some > >> reason, it has the tab deal that runs along the length up and down on > >> the drivers side of the radiator. The Behr does not have this. It got > >> in the way of the radiator fitting good so I had to cut it off. It also > >> does not have the metal reinforced neck like the behr. > > -- > Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark > '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast > '82 300CD (183 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 > 5:53 PM > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.11/2089 - Release Date: 4/30/2009 > 5:53 PM > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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