Hello Wilton, Curt, Tyler, and any lurkers Thank all of you for your interest.
Wilton, your time lag seems like mine. You don't apparently have noises, and I do. The noises are not big except after a real road trip - it seems as if things really drain dry after a stop when the oil is as hot as it gets on the highway. My oil filter has a long bolt through the middle with no pipe, no hole, no spear, and no o-rings. Bolt has threads on the bottom and accepts a sealing washer on the top. The filter housing drains essentially dry when filter removed. Curt - the noises go away when the oil pressure comes up, for which Gott sie Dank. Tyler - I hope to avoid an experience like yours. I'm sure you understand why. But I do have a spare engine that's supposed to be good with 106K miles on it. I have read that one ought to replace the timing components "somewhere between 150,000 miles and 200,000 miles." I suppose I ought to overhaul the timing components with my 156,000 miles and strange noises. As best I can tell, if the timing chain lets go, I'm likely to need that spare engine. Best regards to all Robert >Message: 6 >Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:46:16 -0400 >From: "WILTON" <wilt...@nc.rr.com> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will the real expert on oiling system of Engine 102 > please stand up? Time lag > >Just started my '87 300D for first time today; 28 hours since I shut it down >yesterday; 'best I could tell, it took about 4 seconds for oil pressure to >go to 3 bar after start and at idle. I'll try that and the '91 350SDL again >tomorrow. 'Think this has been mentioned before - if your oil filter >canister is the type with the small pipe down through the middle of the >filter, next time you change oil and filter, be sure to put new little >O-rings (2 on mine) on that center pipe and make sure the little hole in the >side of the pipe near the top of the pipe is clear and air/oil can flow >freely through the little hole and down the pipe. > >Wilton >From: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will the real expert on oiling system of Engine 102 > please stand up? Time lag >Do the noises go away as soon as the pressure comes up? > >When you first described the problem I figured it was just normal, my 240D >seems slow but on my car its more like 2-3 seconds with no real scary noises, >5 seconds with noises is wrong. > >I don't have any 102 engine experience per-say and apparently the oil filter >arrangement is different than the OM6xx since on those the filter cap has a >big spear down through the filter. The spear has 2 rubber o-rings and when >they get old and hard the pressure is slow to rise. If you didn't absolutely >know the o-rings weren't there I'd still give a check for them, wipe down the >spear thing (assuming your car has one) and look for grooves near the last 1/4 >of the spear, there should be o rings on them. The o rings do not come with >the oil filter, you have to order them separately. > >-Curt >Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:52:36 -0700 >From: tyler <casi...@usermail.com> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will the real expert on oiling system of Engine 102 > please stand up? Time lag > >I had an M110 powered car that made noises like that once. I got my >stethoscope out to see where the noise was coming from, and revved it a >little bit to make the noise louder. Suddenly the motor stopped dead >from 2,000 rpm and a few pounds of aluminum chunks fell onto the ground >under the engine. I sold the car for $200 (twice what I paid) and never >found out what it was... That was my first and last gasoline powered >Mercedes. > >Tyler _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com