I agree with you, new refineries need to be built up north. Problem is, no new refinery has been built in past 25 years because the EPA and the Eco terrorist greenies simply have not allowed it.
Now refineries are getting old, are using old tech systems, and are not capable of taking on new supplies with major rework, which is ALSO denied by EPA, CARB, Air Quality, and every other 3 letter government agency known to man. If you want cheap gas at the pumps, fire all these folks and arrest the Eco-terrorist, then build new refineries like Ford built model T cars. Until then, we all "suck it up" and pay,,, dearly. Grant... AZ On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:58 PM, clay monroe <redgh...@comcast.net> wrote: > But why are we shipping not our oil as well as our oil from far north all > the way to the Gulf? We should build refineries up north, turn the stuff > to useful fuel. Home use would lower our price at the pump, then > whatzizname would get a free ride back to the whitehouse. > > Making the Canadians build a pipeline to the Pacific on their own land to > supply china makes more sense, than letting the chinese suckle at our gulf > ports. All the tar sand juice is not doing us any good, so kill the > pipelines unless half the goo goes to our own fuel needs and not to feed > the nations who will one day overtake us. > > > clay > > 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran > 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > On Feb 29, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > > Its dirty and they have to basically boil it out of the ground or strip > mine it, it doesn't flow on its own. Environmentally its not particularly > great stuff. It also takes quite a large energy input to retrieve... > > > > Read up on the Keystone XL through Nebraska. In a lot of cases the > pipeline people threatened land owners with land takings (eminent domain) > if they didn't want to allow the pipeline across their land. In a lot of > Nebraska Keystone XL just ain't gonna happen. As far as I'm concerned our > president is NOT in the wrong in rejecting the proposal. > > > > -Curt > > > > Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:33:39 -0500 > > From: Allan Streib <str...@cs.indiana.edu> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] BioD was Volt vs. Gas > > Message-ID: <m17gz5ojbg....@156-56-179-237.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Mountain Man <maontin....@gmail.com> writes: > > > >> Stray question regarding oil refining. > >> I think I have heard stories lately about the pipeline for the tar > >> sand oil from Canada. Are they saying this oil is really dirty to > >> refine? > > > > I think in the past it was too expensive to refine, maybe in part > > because it's "dirty" compared to more traditional crude oil. With > > prices where they are now, that has changed and suddenly extraction and > > refining of oil from shale and tar sands is profitable. > > > > Allan > > -- > > 1983 300D > > 1979 300SD > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
