Oil is one of our valuable natural resources. If we have limited supply then we 
should be obliged to keep it here.

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On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:05 AM, OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> wrote:

"We" don't produce the oil. The multi-national corporations do. They owe no
alligence to any countyr - just their shareholders. Just because the oil
was pumped from US soil does not mean that it will be sold here. Oil from
all overt the world is refined here, and as good portion of it is sold to
other countries, our consumption needs not withstanding. Shell has an
obligation to it's shareholders to sell to the highest bidder, not to the
US. If China will pay more, they'll get the product, even if it comes from
US wells.

Yes, we are held hostage by the oil companies, as a the result of our very
high consumption and dependence on oil. Accept it for what it is, don't try
to wrap it in the flag --

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Allan Streib <str...@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:

OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> writes:

Not without nationalizing the petroleum industrry. Want to move to
Venzuela?
The oil industry does not know national borders -

Yet if we produced as much or more than we consume, we ould not be held
hostage to oil


On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Larry T <l02tur...@comcast.net> wrote:

"with an halfway decent energy plan this country could be energy
independent in a few years."..

LarryT
91 300D


On 6/1/2012 8:17 AM, Gerry Archer wrote:



Craig <diese...@pisquared.net> writes:

I'm shocked at how much the price of tires has gone up the past
couple of years.


Everything is going up. When you get all those extra trillions of
dollars our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren have
been
obligated to pay chasing the same amount of goods, the price of
things
has to go up.


Yeah but it seems that tires have not just gone up, they've about
doubled since I last shopped (a couple of years ago).
Allan
1983 300D
1979 300SD

Tire Rack and similar websites seem to have the best prices, but
around
here at least, the dealers  charge higher prices for mounting the
mailorder
tires such that little or nothing is saved by ordering them.
I've seen several simple tire changing machines at Harbor Freight and
other sources.  Have you or others had any experience with them?  I
seem to
remember prices in the $150 range for the machines which would be paid
for
after mounting two sets of tires. Balancing can be done by using a hub
clamped in a vice and lubricated with very light oil.  Did that in
years
gone by.
Gerry



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