Hey Tom,
I'm currently going through that with my 190D. I won't even talk about how
much I paid, but I decided I was going to make it into a very nice car before I
started driving it.
Brakes
Thermostat
Monovalve
flexjoint
motormounts
ball joint
tie rod end
switches
drivers seat
On that last point, does anybody have a driver's seat for a w201? I have a
quote of $500 to rebuild it with a new seat frame. I wonder if this is
something I could do myself and save some money?
-Curt
'85 190D 2.2l 5spd
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:57:06 -0600
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
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Brian,
This all falls under the "let the buyer beware" clause. You should have
done
your homework on the car before purchasing it.
I've owned 15 old Mercedes to date and I've put serious money into
every
good deal that I have bough to date. These days, I just figure that
I'll
have to put $2,000 into anything I buy. And that's after I check out
the car
and decide that it's in good shape. But you need to understand that
I'll
purchase an older Mercedes then I'll put 50,000 + miles a year on it.
My latest Mercedes, a 1987 300SDL, cost me $1600.00 the first month I
owned
it. About this time last year, the transmission cost me $1760.00 but at
least it got me home. I'm nursing a cracked head or bad head gasket and
have
been doing so for over 50,000 miles. Even with all of these costs, it's
still cheaper than the rate that my Wife's new Grand Cherokee is
depreciating and I won't complain.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Brian,
I agree with Kaleb. He may not have known that the head was cracked,
particularly if he was an owner who drove the car 3 miles to work and back.
But on the other hand, you can't tell who's a crook and who's not and it's
up to he buyer (You and I) to check out a car. An honest seller will have no
problem with you doing your homework and will be earnestly concerned if you
uncover a major issue.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
Maybe he didnt know the head was cracked.
Brian Smyla wrote:
> Thanks, Tom.
>
> Well, I've got about $7K in the car right now, probably need another $2k
to
> get it 'perfect', including paint. Yes, I believe the car is worth it,
> since I'll probably drive it much longer than something I'd buy for $30 -
> 40K at a dealership.
>
> You're right about the 'caveat emptor' clause, but my complaint is more
> along the lines of dishonesty within the classic Benz owners' community.
>
> Brian Smyla
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:57 PM
> To: Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
>
> Brian,
>
> This all falls under the "let the buyer beware" clause. You should have
done
> your homework on the car before purchasing it.
>
> I've owned 15 old Mercedes to date and I've put serious money into every
> good deal that I have bough to date. These days, I just figure that I'll
> have to put $2,000 into anything I buy. And that's after I check out the
car
> and decide that it's in good shape. But you need to understand that I'll
> purchase an older Mercedes then I'll put 50,000 + miles a year on it.
>
> My latest Mercedes, a 1987 300SDL, cost me $1600.00 the first month I
owned
> it. About this time last year, the transmission cost me $1760.00 but at
> least it got me home. I'm nursing a cracked head or bad head gasket and
have
> been doing so for over 50,000 miles. Even with all of these costs, it's
> still cheaper than the rate that my Wife's new Grand Cherokee is
> depreciating and I won't complain.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-1924
> www.kegkits.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Smyla
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [MBZ] Vacuum pump question answered, plus rant
>
>
> Thanks to all those that replied to my question about the vacuum pump
port.
> I had the engine replaced with a used one, and the shop that did the work
> warranted the engine for 30 days. The day after I picked the car up, the
> engine wouldn't stop. I took it back to have the problem resolved, and
was
> told the problem was in the vacuum transducers near the turbo. I took the
> car back, then discovered that there wasn't any vacuum on the small port
on
> the pump. Also, the climate control had air coming from the defrost ports
> only, and the shifting was very hard, as was mentioned in some of your
> replies.
>
>
>
> I had a very bad experience with this engine replacement. The shop owner
> claims to have many years experience working on MBZ products, but when I
> picked the car up, the heat didn't work (mechanic said it was a problem
with
> my climate control), the starter engaged intermittently, the idler pulley
> was chafing the back side of the belt, a turbo support bracket was
missing,
> and various bolts were missing here and there. I spent three hours
checking
> the climate control, only to finally figure out that the mechanic had left
a
> plug in the return water pipe where it connects to the heater hose that
> comes off the monovalve. I returned the car for repair of the other
> problems. They fixed the starter issue, installed the turbo bracket (
after
> arguing with me on the phone for 5 minutes that the bracket didn't
exist ),
> told me the idler pulley wasn't part of what was warranted ( the idler
> pulley was from the replacement engine, and I told him that since it
wasn't
> under warranty, I wanted my old one back ), and said the shutoff problem
was
> in the emission control transducers, which I know is BS, because there's
no
> vacuum on the port to start with.
>
>
>
> If anyone's interested, the shop is Chaney's Auto Service in Ringgold, VA.
> I'm not going back.
>
>
>
> Oh, and he charged me $2000 for the replacement engine, labor to remove
the
> replacement engine from the donor vehicle, promised me a 10% cash discount
> from the original quoted price, then added enough miscellaneous parts
(motor
> mounts, used starter, hoses, etc..) to make up the difference. Go figure.
>
>
>
> And no, it's not worth going to court over.
>
>
>
> And to make matters worse, I bought the car from Stefan Schultze, who
> assured me that the only thing wrong with it was bad hood hinges. Flew to
> Indiana to pick it up, where he told me that the heater had been
> intermittently working. Drove it back, then discovered it had a cracked
> head. All 6 cylinders. Refused to reply to follow up emails asking for a
> $1k concession. I know, my fault, caveat emptor and all that.
>
>
>
> Thanks for letting me vent.
>
>
>
> Brian Smyla
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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