The +P+ ammo we had to use for street carry was also known as "Treasury
Loads" and was not available for sale to the public.  Back in the day there
was a lot of controversy over the use of 9mm for law enforcement, as it was
considered marginal for the 1-shot stop standard.  The standard was that one
center-mass shot should stop an assailant most of the time.  There were a
few situations where LEOs had to hit with multiple rounds in order to end a
fight, leading to public criticism for excessive force.  The USDOJ
determined that over-pressure 9mm rounds would do the job better and
accepted the +P+ 9mm as standard duty carry for some agencies.  As this
proved not entirely satisfactory in terms of the long-term effects on the
firearms.  This led to the creation of the .40 cal, a joint project of S&W
and some elements of the DOJ.

The M19 handles beautifully with standard 9mm ammo.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
Dillon
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:09 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?

Thanks Greg.  Newbie, no idea what +P+ ammo is.  How was the 19's recoil
with normal ammo, like what you would use at a range?

Most of my experience has been with military issue Beretta 9mm, which I can
shoot just fine but the grip is too fat and I despise the muzzle climb.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Greg Fiorentino <gf...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote:

>I carried the 19 daily for quite a while.  The only downside was the 
>harsh snap when +P+ ammo was fired in it.  If this is for concealed 
>carry the
>19
>is a good choice.  If size is not an issue the 17 is more comfortable 
>to shoot and a bit more accurate.  I foolishly traded away my early 
>Austrian made M17.  Never fired a Hi-power.
>
>The Glock 9mms are reliable, light-weight and accurate.  They do not 
>recommend non-jacketed ammo if that is a concern.
>
>Greg
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max 
>Dillon
>Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:26 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Subject: [MBZ] OT Which Glock to buy?
>
>Model 19 or 26?  The only semi-auto pistol of significant caliber that 
>I really enjoy shooting is a Browning Hi-Power that is owned by a 
>relative.
>There is basically no muzzle climb.  A friend who is a big Glock fan 
>advises that the model 19 will have the best recoil characteristics.  
>Anyone here have experience with a 19, and a 26 or a Hi-Power?
>
>--
>Max Dillon
>Charleston SC
>'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
>
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