I agree with Scott''s post about the younger generation wanting everything now. I was just thinking about this yesterday before I read this email. Back in the 1980's how common was air conditioning? Back then I'm not sure credit cards were all the rage either. Today cash is not needed, because you can charge your wedding or your Australian vacation on your credit card and pay the interest until the day you die... People today take risk but are in denial about it. They will pay $100,000 for college (a risk) with no way to cover the cost (denial about the risk). This is more fun than fretting about your problems. It is a more live for today society than a live for tomorrow society.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:53 PM, G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > What Clay said, x2. > > Man up. Get off your collective asses and go to work society. Spend the > 19.7 hrs you now spend each week watching dancing with the stars inventing > a new device to save the world. > > Take charge of your country, your life, and your future. Love your children > enough to teach them self reliance and responsibility. Have a dream and > work it. > > Know what an elephant is? A mouse designed and built under government > contract. > > Grant... > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:18 PM, clay <redgh...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Curt, Unless you happen to have resided on this continent prior to 1492, > > your forefathers were risk takers. Maybe not much by choice if colored, > > but coming here was not for the risk averse. With the growth of unions > > (Big risk for those trying to organize) the risk averse were made > > comfortable. Pensions are a thing of our fathers or grandfathers, but > not > > great grandfathers. Until the FDR fiasco, life was not for the weak. > > Surviving even through the depression required stamina and a healthy > > undertaking of risk to remain above ground. WWII required lots of > comfort > > for risk to willingly dodge bullets. Moving off the farm to work a > factory > > job was massive risk, since you left all you knew for a chance at a > better > > future. > > > > Then the baby boomers came of age. Lots of drugs, free love, fear of > > Vietnam, coddled by mommy and daddy and expecting to not have to risk > > anything to get ahead. Go to college, find a job, a spouse, house, cars, > > kids, and have it all delivered to you with little effort. Snivel about > > nuclear energy, McD food, not having gluten free, free range, organic, > > vegan, locavore tofurkey. > > > > Sure, life has moved to a Nanny state, where we can pander to fear, avoid > > risks, mandate insurance, tell parents they can not smoke in a car in > > Oregon if there are children present, allow our elected leaders to spy on > > us, numb ourselves with reality tv, while we avoid the realities of > > actually living. A sheltered life is one of fear and risk aversion. > > Living by the vagaries of nature involves risks. Being stupid enough to > > build a house that will not withstand a tornado in OK, is foolhardy, but > > nobody wants to think about the risk and actually deal with it. > > > > clay > > > > > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > > > > I'm gonna call BS here. You're saying our forefathers who worked in > > factories were big risk takers? The guys who worked the same job for > their > > whole lives and depended on the company's pension? Or go back a couple > > generations to the farm where they lived their whole lives and maybe > never > > left the county? > > > > > > Risk takers are always genetic freaks. Everybody said Columbus was > nuts, > > nothing out there worth sailing to. Same for the first folks who ventured > > west. Benz and Daimler, who would want a vehicle you had to buy gas for? > > > > > > Humans are not wired to take risks, our pain to pleasure threshold is > > way over on the pleasure side. Heres a simple experiment to prove it. > > Present somebody with a game, you'll flip a coin and if they win you'll > pay > > them $10, if you win they pay you $1. > > > Everybody will play that game right? You'd be an idiot not to > > > > > > Then change it to if they win you pay $5 if you win they pay $1. Now > > most everybody will still play but some people (the super risk averse) > will > > drop. > > > > > > Now change it to $2/$1 and most people will drop. This is nuts on 100 > > flips of the coin they should get around $100 while only paying $50, they > > almost can't lose but most people will not take the bet, only the freaks > > do... > > > > > > -Curt > > > Who wishes he was one of the freaks but really isn't... > > > > > > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 13:33:10 -0700 > > > From: clay <redgh...@comcast.net> > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Starving Youngsters: was 44 years OT > > > Message-ID: <0367275f-cbd9-4976-890e-81fc0c2e3...@comcast.net> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > > Scott, your insight is great, but all the items you tick off really > > devolved to the same entity. Risk. The youth and Baby boomers are > really > > risk averse as a whole. There are many who are job creators, who have > > gambled and struggle every day to remain viable if not massively > successful. > > > > > > As a nation we have shied away from that, and instituted the assurance > > of vastly reduced risk in life. Go to college, somehow it will be paid > > for. Even if you screwed around horridly in secondary school, we will > find > > a way for you to reap rewards you have not earned. Take on the debt, of > a > > house, a degree, a lifestyle beyond your means, there will be no Piper to > > pay, as we have removed the eventual pain. Soon maybe even death will be > > vanquished. We will allow you to destroy your financial future in an > > attempt to keep you alive by treating your cancer or lifestyle disease, > so > > worry not about the bottle of booze, the cases of smokes, the triple > bacon > > cheez burgers, the hours spent on you butt in front of the massive TV you > > could not really afford, while you consume cable tv you also can not > afford. > > > > > > The reduction of risk is counter evolutionary. We are no longer > weeding > > out the lesser qualified and encouraging the defective to increase in > > population. In nature there are boundaries, and you end up with a boom > and > > then a crash. We think we are moderating that, but in reality, we are > > stoking the boom which will one day exceed our ability to feed that > cancer > > and it will wipe out, much as our current wild fire policy, that which is > > was attempting to protect. > > > > > > The housing bubble did not result in all that much pain. Nobody died. > > Some lost homes, but the increase in homeless did not spike, the people > > moved into subsidized housing of some sort, be it parental homes, or > > socialized. This lack of life and death results has robbed the people of > > the joys and passion of being alive. If we must have Manna from heaven, > at > > least we should be forced to wander the wilderness for two generations > > before we are allowed to find a home. With four generations of > socialism, > > we are going to have a massive crash, much as the soviets did when their > > experiment toppled. > > > > > > clay > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
