Boy you guys are critcal.
They flew this great big plane all the way accross the bloody Pacific
and got to the correct airport and runway.
They only missed by what, 25 feet or so?
If they had managed to clear the landing gear they likely could have set
it down.
Think how much worse things would have been if they had been 25 feet
lower and had slammed into the seawall headfirst???
Randy who hopes the pilots are on the ball the next time he flies
On 11/07/2013 6:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Asians can't drive so why think they can fly?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:38 PM, "WILTON" <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
Speaking of not being able to do a visual approach; evidently, neither can
three 10-khr Korean pilots.
Wilton
----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Streib" <str...@cs.indiana.edu>
To: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com>; "Mercedes Discussion List"
<mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?
Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes:
If it going to be all automated, then eliminate the people and thereby
pilot error. If these guys (or gals ) are sitting in the seat, they
need to be monitoring the critical parameters (altitude, attitude and
airspeed) whether on manual or auto.
Eliminating the people might in theory eliminate the pilot error (though
the automation is all created and programmed by people too).
My view is that there is a catch 22 of sorts. Could an automated
aircraft have landed US 1549 on the Hudson River when the engines were
disabled by birds? No. No way. You would have had several hundred
fatalities in that situation if a robot was flying the airplane. Only a
human, has the ability to react intelligently to a completely
unanticipated situation. Unfortunately, though, not all pilots are
Chesley Sullenberger. Most, by definition, are average. So no
guarantee that any average human pilot could have saved that situation,
but certainly ONLY a human pilot had any chance to do so.
On the other hand, would a robot pilot have made the mistakes that the
OZ 214 pilots did? No. If there's one thing computers are good at (and
people are bad at) it's monitoring things without ever making
assumptions or getting distracted. However computers can't do visual
approaches yet, and that was the only option at SFO 28L that day since
the ILS was out of service.
On balance, automation has probably saved more lives than it's cost.
Automation relieves the pilot workload, flies more economically than
humans can, and in general files more safely.
I think the unfortunate reality is that commercial air transport, while
very (VERY) safe, is not perfectly safe. Situations can arise, where
the automation cannot handle it and a human, being human, makes a bad
decision. All we can do is try to learn from it.
Allan
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Allan Streib
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