On 08/08/2013 11:08 AM, Dieselhead wrote:
I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced.
Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure
from use of the IH engines?
My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in
the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc.
GM injectors etc.
Expensive and difficult to work on.
Either the Dodge with the Cummins is better or his shop does not
attract them as I don't think he has done any work on motors in those
trucks.
The last one I recall him commenting on was suspension work.
Randy
Cummins has been building Diesel engines for 100 years and know how to
do it. (read "My Days with the Diesel" by Clessie Cummins) The
problem with the cummins/dogde is weight. That is a heavy sucker.
IH v8 engines are good, but the inline 6 (DT466 etc.) is great. same
as the 1066 through 1486 tractors. Frod did their best fro screw up
the IH engine from what I've heard. I think that contributed heavily
to the divorce. The frod IH was not as good as the International IH
v8 Diesel engine.
Frod's ol tractor division could build a Diesel, and they had
automotive versions for the RTW. That was sold off and is now a part
of CNH, along with Case, what is left of IH farm, and a few others. It
seems like they have dropped the frod name, as the new blue tractor
are "New Holland" I head the frod 240 and 300 gas engines were the
same block as the tractor engines. I'm not sure about that, but I
know the 240 block was heavy.
Right now, I don't think frod or gummit motors could build a good
Diesel. The isuzu in the GM stuff seems to be ok, but I'm not sure
the jury is on on that yet. Isuzu pretty much ripped off the Mercedes
OM engines for some models, like the thermoking.
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If I had really deep pockets, I would consider a brand new Dodge with
the Cummins.
I am not sure I want to buy an older one with a lot of miles on it. Some
of them tend to get worked really hard.
I expect, barring some accidental destruction, I could make a new Dodge
last me the rest of my days.
However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a
1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense.
I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so
fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an
engine as trouble free as my old MB.
IF only there was.
Randy
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